> Also there is 5 manager/pm at our standup
These statements cannot both be true. Those 5 managers are violating the "process".
> Also there is 5 manager/pm at our standup
These statements cannot both be true. Those 5 managers are violating the "process".
Only if they speak
Also one of the "managers" (that's his title), manages no one.
He's a scrum master of sorts, who goes around interrupting people programming to remind them to move their tasks to "in progress" or to "closed". I assume so our burndown chart moves down. I've been tempted to replace this guy with a script.
We all know what the other member of the team works on, so the standup is clearly not for us but for a minute update to all the managers who are sitting in on several "standups" in a row.
If you read my comments, it's not really the standup itself that I complain about. It's disguised micro management with an Agile shell.
Since teams are supposed to be self organized and the process itself should be agile, you could ask the member of the team to comment on the process and if they think the standup help them.
We don't make huge use of it, since we've only got about four developers, so communication is pretty easy, but it can be helpful.
It also can be helpful months later when needing a reminder why something was changed based on an assumed unimportant detail at the time.