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Neovim Newsletter #5 – Out of the Box

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I'm particularly impressed by the fact that the new TUI using libtermkey means that they can bind M- and C-S- combinations in the terminal. This is something that has really plagued emacs terminal users -- the terminal UI can't handle all the key chords that the graphical UI can, which really breaks down for some modes, org-mode in particular. It's not clear from the documentation whether M-C- combinations are handled, which would be especially useful on emacs.

Shame they're getting rid of the 'view' synonym for 'vim -R', though I guess it's easy enough to replicate with a shell alias or trivial shell-script.

Wow, neovim is really coming along nicely. I'm excited to start seeing Windows support. Keep it up guys!

Curious if anyone has a gui-based build of neovim yet for the mac, perhaps a stable build of Atom Neovim?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH_zb7X6mZw

Have a look at this one: https://github.com/rogual/neovim-dot-app

awesome, exactly what I was looking for

edit: Actually, I spoke too soon, having trouble getting this to build. It seems the Homebrew build package has some issues at the moment.

It builds fine for me just now on 10.10. I did have to pop in to zsh instead of fish because of `SyntaxError: Missing parentheses in call to 'print'` though. The font rendering looks a bit off for me but it's blazingly fast.

I was having trouble building the neovim package, but I did not realize that I did not have the latest command-line tools. Updating those fixed the issue.

Neovim.app isn't in Homebrew. Are you referring to its dependencies like scons, msgpack-c, or something else?

What is failing?

Atom Shell UI for Neovim[1] might be for you. Seems pretty stable with a few tweaks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgNJnBKMRNw

[1] https://github.com/coolwanglu/neovim.as

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZbMVj9XSUo (Running emacs in neovim)

This is pretty fun. It's using the new terminal emulator within Neovim which is mentioned in this newsletter.

This post was ranked 4th a few minutes ago and suddenly it dropped to 29th.

It currently has 10 points and was created 25 minutes ago, and is behind posts with 5 points created 35 minutes ago, anyone has an idea why this happens?

Penalties can be applied for various keywords or voting patterns. Perhaps the voting ring detector was tripped?

Seems to be the cause, just found this: http://www.righto.com/2013/11/how-hacker-news-ranking-really...

The penalty applied to this post seems really unjust. 138 points in two hours ranked 20th, in contrast with the 2nd place which has 130 points and also was posted two hours ago.

Yup. And now its off the homepage even though it should still be in the top 10.

Yes I agree. I'd like to know what the penalty here is. Keyword based? I've read (somewhere) that "vim" gets a penalty, perhaps "neovim" does now too.

Why does vim get a penalty?

Of course vim doesn't get a penalty. How do people come up with these things?!

Edit: removed joke about being an Emacs user. Must learn not to do that.

I've found that HN tends to present things with some variations.

I don't really consider the front page as a ranking as much as current suggestions. Sometimes the top post has no comments, sometimes the top is dominated by full discussions.

It set off the voting ring detector.

How does HN distinguishes popular posts from voting rings? Or will it always penalize a post with too many votes in a short time span?

Not the expert, but an old-timer:

It's a cat-and-mouse game between HN and the various promotional rings, so they're always going to be cagey about how it works. Generally: post content, and then trust the site to find it. Re-post later if the site misses it. Don't do other things --- like asking your friends to upvote, or circulating HN links on other sites --- to promote an HN link.

Generally a good rule of thumb is that things you do to promote your STORY are probably fine, but things you do to promote AN HN LINK are virtually never fine.

We only promote the newsletter link, not the HN discussion. Though I have been seeing some tweets(@ExplodingAds, @offeryour and others) whenever a Neovim story is posted, could these(which often contain HN discussion links) be triggering the ring detector?

The twitter spambots tweet about every story. And comment. And whatever.

> anyone has an idea why this happens?

We're watched over by machines of loving grace.

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