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> And it doesn't seem so bad since we're the good guys.

I'm pretty sure that was meant to be tongue-in-cheek.

> Post-Snowden, check your premises.

What premise are you making? That the United States conducts espionage?

You know that post down there somewhere in this thread that says that having classified state secrets is the same as having widespread political censorship? That's the kind of gulf between saying the U.S. "conducts espionage" and the fact that it also conducts mass surveillance of billions of people ;)

But I am with you on the broader point, "we're the good guys" was probably meant sarcastically, since very few people outside of Fox news commentators would say it un-ironically about the U.S. (or any country as a whole, really).

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