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Comment by abuehrle | Hacker News Reader

So don't work for this company? Sometimes people live and breathe the work they do, and are looking for others who will as well. It's up to you to decide whether you want to participate in what they're doing.

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A translation of their post is "Don't work for us if you want either adequate compensation for your time and effort, or reasonable work hours."

People who fully invest themselves in their work should be compensated accordingly, and this company is at their own admission not doing so. They are not looking for dedication, they are looking for cannon fodder.

This sort of behavior drives down every developer's wages.

See, the trouble is there are people in this industry who would work at this place, and that contributes to lower wages and poorer working conditions. Sure, I won't work there but the fact that others will has an impact on me at least indirectly. I think that's sufficient reason to call out this kind of job/company for the bullshit it is.

Isn't that kind of like saying that those guys who always stay past 6pm or come in before 8am are assholes?

Not if those guys are laying fat stacks of sweet cheddar.

Of course not. But if they aren't demanding something for their efforts, they are misguided.

What if you stay past 6 because you don't roll out of bed before 8?

Damn right they are, if they're doing it without pay. Any union would put a stop to that. A shame America's "temporarily embarrassed millionaires" are unwilling to act in their own interest.

"Asshole" isn't the right word, assuming you mean they are working overtime regularly without pay. I'd probably use other words like "gullible" and "useful idiot[1]." And, yes, I would put them in the same tent as the other useful idiots who'd happily (as opppsed to out of desperation) take a job advertised as per the link in the article.

[1] http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot

I seriously want to meet the kind of person who looks at a job advert, maybe does an interview, and then decides "Yep, this is the kind of job that I would like to live and breath".

I can understand if someone does a job for a good while and gets invested and passionate about it. But who are these people who just look at job adverts and say "Yep, I could definitely centre my whole life around this."?

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