German court orders measles sceptic to pay 100,000 euros
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Edit (reply-limit): Thanks readerrr and cremno, valid points, will consider it in the future.
What I meant was, there have been theories before the current theory of evolution. For example Lamarck's one, which is long considered false but lately some aspects of it are reintroduced. If we would punish everyone for denying evolution we would be unable to advance it.
And of course this has nothing to do with teaching children biology. Of course children need to be taught evolution there.
a coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena
and not:
a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural and subject to experimentation, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact
We have a separate word for the latter: a hypothesis.
Adding the word "just" implies a misunderstanding of how the scientific method works, because it doesn't get any better than a good theory.
> Still, negating the existence of measles or viruses in general doesn't cost a cent in Germany.
It shouldn't. Truth can't be found by forcing others to believe in your version of it. The acceptance of any given fact will naturally follow a normal distribution, and those on one side or the other of that curve aren't defective. They're actually necessary for intelligent and critical discourse.
Even this fool provided an opportunity for the public to learn how wrong he was.
I'm rather partial to imposing a tax on self-delusion and refusing to update beliefs in face of overwhelming evidence.
Also, the normal distribution part is plainly unjustified. The scientific consensus on various climate change topics is widely accepted to a high confidence by many, and widely denied with even higher confidence by many others. Bayesian belief networks are better models for individuals, and if we were to put belief in a given generic climate-change-related claim on a curve with 1:1 confidence in the middle and "certain true/false" at the extremes, you'd have a valley, not a normal. An asymmetrical valley, to boot.
That's a dumb thing to say.
"Scientific consensus"? Really?
I suppose the first time a person chants "scientific consensus" everyone down to the last person is supposed to instantaneously change their minds and accept it, right?
The truth of the matter is that some people are slower to accept such truths than others. This doesn't mean that they're unwilling to accept them forever, but maybe it takes them a few weeks/months/years to arrive at the same conclusion as the rest. There's no reason to punish them or "tax" them for this.
Even if you could somehow determine that they never will accept it (rather than just being slow), those people are still necessary to keep the consensus honest. Without them, there won't be any criticism left, and then it just becomes a game for jackasses to try to get people to chant "scientific consensus" enough that everyone else must accept it instantly or be punished for not doing so.
What you're talking about isn't "consensus" at all, it's groupthink.
And it's pretty fucking sad that you've confused one for the other.
Thanks for the hint. Unfortunately, I no longer can edit my comment...
> It shouldn't.
I didn't mean to judge. But for my liking, the BBC headline suggests that this would be the case in Germany, while the reality is very far from that.
- Biologist offered €100,000 to anyone who could prove that measles is a virus.
- The biologist believes the illness is psychosomatic.
- The reward was later claimed by a doctor who gathered evidence from various medical studies.
- The court ruled that the proof was sufficient.
- Biologist has to pay up to the doctor.
"[...] The doctor had noted the biologist's 100.000-Euro-Offer on the internet. At the start of the trial, he stated that he had requested (and received) written confirmation of the bet. He sent the documents to the biologist - together with his account number. Still, he did not receive the money and proceeded to sue. [...]"
Original article here: http://www.stuttgarter-nachrichten.de/inhalt.kurioser-masern...
http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/1892/1.html CARLILL v. CARBOLIC SMOKE BALL COMPANY; admittedly that's English law rather than German, but the principle holds. That case also deals with rewards, diseases and pseudoscience.
Anyhow, while IANAL, bounties are regulated by German law in (among others) BGB §657-661a. Mostly §661 and §661a. You can find a translation of those paragraphs here: http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_bgb/englisch_bgb....
But it looks like the dumbass actually offered $100,000 for someone to prove it, and the courts merely held him to his promise. Thanks German Court System for not being completely retarded this time.
Most of the things i see the german court system do are completely fine, especially in comparison to the american one. I'm curious why you'd specify "this time".