Hacker News Reader

Comment by zanny | Hacker News Reader

If it had 256GB and Ubunutu it would be the Linux Macbook we need. A large portion of buyers will almost certainly be trying to run GNU/Linux on it anyway.

View on HN

And not just any Linux notebook: assuming they don't change this from the last version, it'll be open down to the embedded-controller firmware. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTMwOTY

"How hard would it be to install Ubuntu" is the first thing I think whenever I see a Chromebook.

I never look into it further because I assume they've made it difficult.

It's really not though. There's crouton which makes it trivial to setup a chroot - https://github.com/dnschneid/crouton which is good enough for most users.

If you'd rather blow away ChromeOS and install Ubuntu, it's just a few commands on the command line to boot from USB and install Ubuntu.

My biggest worry is the ease with which one can accidentally wipe out everything and reset it to factory settings every time you boot up. I might be super careful, but all I need is for my four or seven year old to turn it on wrong, and suddenly I fear I'd have a several hour fix-it session.

If it came with a setting that would let me make changes more permanent (e.g., a BIOS setting), I'd want one in a heartbeat.

That 'setting' exists in the form of opening it up, unscrewing a screw to enable flashing, and then flashing the BIOS.

Sounds like that would void the warranty? I've never had to do something like that to install Linux on a laptop before.

This.

My wife accidentally wiped my fully configured Crouton Ubuntu install off the drive when I was first playing with my Gen 1 Pixel. I chatted with a few Google Chrome OS devs right after this happened and managed to convince one that some sort of a setting, even if it's super obscure, would be a good idea, but apparently nothing ever came of it.

Crouton has come along way since then and you can back your chroot off to an SD card now, but it's still a pain point for sure.

ChromeOS is Linux and chrome, with a drastically simplified desktop environment. The hardware is well supported (AFAIK). But it's easier to run crouton atop than reinstall. So most people who want more do that.

I think that this device as a 256GB Ubunutu box would be very popular on the Google campus as well so there would seem to be some internal pressure for this configuration. (At least in 2013 when I was there, the Pixels were popular laptops as were small Goobuntu laptops.)

The problem is that the Pixel as a Chromebook fits in really well with Google's larger business model.

What's wrong with the Dell XPS 15 as a linux macbook? I've seen the two side by side and they're practically identical. The only problem is battery life, and I suspect that's mainly a software problem at this point, not hardware.

Like other chromebooks, I am sure you'll be able to upgrade the NGFF to 256GB. Plenty of NGFF drives are available on Amazon.

This new Pixel, like the old one, has a soldered down iSSD, not NGFF.

Reply on news.ycombinator.com