Google Memorial: the small museum of projects abandoned by Google
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Google checkout turned into Google Wallet. Google latitude ended up as part of the Google+ Identity overhaul.
There's also a lot of projects that are "labs" or "beta." Clearly they didn't gain the traction Google wanted from them.
Google's like any other startup on a project-by-project basis. If the idea doesn't work they pivot and drop it.
At the same time, Google seems to want it both ways. They have an idea and use their size to attract users and, perhaps even unintentionally, effectively block others from implementing the idea or scare others away (a size thing). Then, if they decide they don't like it, which can feel arbitrary, they pull out. Now the idea is tainted so others are less likely to implement it and users are left wondering what to do. They really seem like a bull in a china shop sometimes.
I like the innovation and the experimentation, but it seems like they could be more graceful about it for both users and other entities trying the same things. Perhaps they should try these experiments in a more stealth way? Pretend not to be Google? Of course, people might super-hate on them for that, huh?
If Google wants to experiment, create projects that don't have the Google brand (they just use G+ login like any other startup) and then reveal it was Google all along.
Let the projects succeed on their own merits, with their own marketing. If you tie in the Google brand you are setting expectations that this will be a long-lasting effort.
I don't think anyone has that expectation anymore :p
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While Google's 'everything in beta' mentality is endearing in a 'democracy'/'transparent fun-loving engineers' sort of way... it is also evidence to the fact that our information behemoth is rudderless.
Google Buzz.
That sucker was good. Great even.
It would find things across browsers, through documents and files and even collate results from web searches that most browsers - sometimes even Chrome to this day - missed or never registered in the history, in the first place.
I would have gladly paid some $50-$75 a year to have it work across all of my devices.
And I don't typically pay for most offerings. It was that good.
I miss that one badly.
As basically all companies stopped further developing desktop search products, I needed a proper replacement. I developed an enterprise/desktop search engine last year that basically reimplements Google desktop search including advanced search syntax and support for various file formats.
If this were Reddit, this is the point where I would post the "SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY" image.
The even more mind-boggling thing is that for Google especially, desktop search would seem to be a huge opportunity. Imagine how precisely you could target ads to users if they let you scan their entire hard drive! Jeez louise.
Lesson: don't hang anything important on Google apps.
Features missing from Word Docs: KeepTogether, orphan/widow management, page layout, reviewing(?)
Bugs:
typeface changes when going back to Normal after any heading (doesn't change but ribbon says it has).
Ctrl-C copies but Ctrl-X doesn't delete text
Font changes randomly DO or DONT apply to the line you're on, when not selected
Google seems to hit their head through the wall that the issue in user adoption are the APIs. Nope, it's politics.
Similarly, I'd put a phonograph in a museum, even though it's features have been replaced by other things.
You can't have it both ways, people.
Of course we can. It's just that companies are now so geared to quarterly roadmaps that nothing has time to gain momentum unless it becomes a phenomenon.
I see this with airlines as well; they launch a route in the middle of winter, or on a business route with schedules that are awkward for meetings, and then can it two months later because 'no-one uses it'. Which dissuades other airlines from trying a more sensible approach.
With a little thought, however, it will be obvious to you that the consumer's definition of "sufficient" cannot possibly match a company's definition in 100% of cases: there will be a grey area where at least some people will like mouthwash-flavored bubble gum, but not enough people do that the company can afford to keep it. (And see if it does take off later, as you say would have happened in many cases.)
Consumers have two alternatives: either allow companies to test products like this without backlash, and accept that some products will be discontinued due to lack of adoption, or to have stagnancy with only upstart companies trying new things and the existing brands sitting on the bylines looking for success built elsewhere that they can copy.
I support innovation and encourage companies to go out on a limb, without any backlash if they discontinue these tests. (Even if I loved the product.)
You have this unstated assumption that they have to quickly abandon products that don't gain traction. But that's not true. It's short-term thinking over long-term.
When a company spends 30 man years developing a product, they can set aside 1 or 2 extra for long term maintenance. By promising or consistently providing this, they can build customer trust and get more users.
Keeping digital services up is cheap. It's shameful whenever DRM or video game servers go down after just a couple years because the company ran out of money or doesn't care anymore. These things could have been funded upfront with the tiniest fraction of the budget.
Not that it matters. Pushing a change "as an update" is a detail of how the app database works. It has no bearing on whether it's a replacement or not.
Wikipedia sure seems to think they're different things, and they love to merge articles.
Also if it's not a replacement they sure could have chosen better wording for: "Google Talk app for Windows will stop working on Feb 16 2015. It is replaced by the new Hangouts Chrome app."
Which is nice for Google, but screws over the users. If you're a user, you should be well aware that Google's products are unreliable and are there as an experiment.
Really? Can you explain more why. Is there an article accompanying it that shames Google or says anything bad about it. To me it just looks like a company that iterates and is trying new things.
> A lot of these projects ended up as other projects or built into other projects.
Well it would be bad if they completely threw away the code, and then hired a whole new group of people to work on a similar project. That would make them look worse.
I haven't seen any accompanying MS articles like this, mainly because there haven't been angry posts here of MS shutting down products we think they should keep running forever that no one uses.
Quite the contrary, people seem to be happy when MS shuts down a product.
Microsoft also gets the reverse treatment: criticism for "excessive" backwards compatibility^ and leaving old products in use that people want to kill (IE6).
^ Except when they were sabotaging Lotus, Quarterdeck, OS/2, and Samba back in the 90s.
Inevitably, though, everything that went into building either those mini-games or that feature for another game ends up in all of our future projects.
This sort of thing makes it look like those projects are completely dead, despite the fact that they live on either in full or in part under rebranded names or driving Google's next big feature.
* - now code.openhub.net
(I'm aware you can clone the repo and search it locally, but that somewhat defeats the point - especially for large projects.)
While Github is great, I think it still hosts only a small fraction of all the code that is public.
Nothing currently out there is as good as Google Code Search was: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Code_Search
And unfortunately, I don't know of any comparable alternative. (But please tell me if you do!)
Here is the problem it solved:
It let you discover members of a set by entering a few members that you already know.
For instance, if you enter "terrier," "bulldog," "German shepherd," it might return, "beagle," "poodle," "chihuahua."
Obviously, in this example, it would probably be just as easy to Google "list dog breeds."
But what if you know a few members of a set ... but don't actually know what the set is, or the proper way to describe the set to a search engine?
Or what if the search engine results take you to pages that list some related terms, but you've got to sift through a lot of other content to get to them?
That's when Google Sets really came in handy.
Edit: I admit, Google has gotten a lot better in recent years at returning this sort of information in search results. And Wolfram does a good job, too. So my need for Sets has decreased, but I still miss it.
It's part of their spreadhseet now. You type things out and drag the items, like you would numbers to count.
I too missed sets a lot and was very happy to have found that:)
I worry that a truly great technology has died with Sets: the way it would correctly intuit the scope of your set. Give it cities in Ohio, it spits out other Ohio cities. But give it London and Tokyo and you get all the major metropolises across the globe. Kudos to those who made it, and I hope they can do it again when applications for it arise.
* I'm trying to remember the acronym of the professional sports league associated with U.S. soccer. I enter: NHL, NBA, NFL.
* I need to think of some consumer brands. I enter: Procter & Gamble, Johnson & Johnson.
* I'm trying to brainstorm female baby names based on Old Testament characters. I enter: Eve, Ruth, Naomi, Esther.
This is my current goto for naming duties:
Google Answers was destroyed by Yahoo Answers - you could see the approach they were going for though - a properly answered question can be shown again and again. SO seemed to strike a balance between the two.
Wave was a textbook example of how you can fail if people don't understand why they should use your product. They gave up on it (by handing it to the Apache Foundation where it continues to be developed), rolled the clever collaboration technology into Google Docs, and told everyone they'd made it so you could edit a doc at the same time as someone else. Everyone continues to love it to this day.
Wave.google.com was an example product using said protocol. Since the protocol was barely spoken of, even by developers, everyone assumed the website was the (only) product. Since the website did a lot of things, and none of it well, often being compared to email, it flopped and the entire project folded..
Now the project lives on in obscurity under Apache: http://incubator.apache.org/wave/about.html
¹ Technically, the "Wave Federation Protocol", but anyone that really looked into Wave would know that the protocol was the most important element of the project.
You mean like google docs?
The purpose of Google Wave was basically to be a fancy do all messaging service. Many critics have compared Slack to Google Wave including Hunter Walk an ex YTer and Googler. You can see that Google Wave was probably even more powerful - so powerful that it looked daunting and confusing and people didn't know how to use it.
So you're right that it's not like Slack or Hipchat, but I think you may also misunderstand its purpose.
The 'about' page: https://web.archive.org/web/20100427183005/http://wave.googl...
Actually, looking at the screenshot on that page, I can see why s_dev sees it as something like Slack. It has a much more 'chat'-based interface than I remember. Sorry s_dev.
Simplifying the interface, inviting more people to the beta when it was originally out, and increasing the ability to federate easily were three big things that were missing from wave for more people to adopt it imo.
GA worked quite well at first. There were some very active users that did excellent work and got paid quite nicely for their efforts. But a vague set of rule changes started to migrate in.
For example, a non-verified observer could comment on a question and pretty much give the entire answer. An official GA Researcher would answer the the question above the line, and the response from Google would be "Well, you didn't add any information to this topic than what was already on the page, so no payment for you". Riiiiight.
There were other little quirks and then eventually Google announced one day it was over. That's just how it rolled with them. I'm chalking it up to shiny things elsewhere that took attention away from GA. I did get a nice fleecy blanket as a Christmas gift one year. Not sure why.
That's somewhat true for certain technical aspects but it's too quick to ignore the mistakes Google made and minimize the value of work which more successful products put into the user experience.
Google never made the case for why using Wave would benefit you; as with Buzz, Plus, etc. Googlers reported liking it because they had both critical mass and pressure to use it long enough to see the benefits but few people outside did.
Instead, what we did hear about a lot was the technology which was going to change the world right up until it failed. This is a common failure mode for Google where the strong engineering culture crowds out UX, forgetting that for almost any product that's an implementation detail which most people shouldn't need to care about.
Wave has been collecting dust as an Apache project ever since.
Frankly, it is nearly impossible to recommend Keep when Evernote exists. Until they have, at minimum, some way to organize notes, it's just a pile of notes sitting in one window. But it would still be a hard sell when compared to all the Evernote features, such as the desktop clients that allow you to take screenshots and annotate them.
Edit: Oh, and there's also Geeknote¹ for CLI usage, as well as Vim plugins².
¹ http://www.geeknote.me/ ² https://github.com/neilagabriel/vim-geeknote
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Preferably - it should be a one button click of "copy to github repo". Which would include conversion of SVN and Mercurial history to git.
Wow...killed the same year Uber was founded. Missed out on a nice market opportunity...probably just needed to be refined, remarketed and keep it going. (I never even heard about it.)
I wish they'd start charging for it.
The one advantage Reader arguably still had was what came from their search infrastructure (caching nearly everything forever & near-realtime updates) but that's not something I notice very often.
To be fair, some of these didn't die - they were renamed, graduated, or folded into another project. Google Talk actually still works on Google Chat if you have the old client. Google Listen became Google Music, Checkout was mostly folded into Wallet, etc.
Sidenote: if you are the developer, that yellow-on-white is almost completely unreadable. I know flat pastels are in, but I have to either strain or open the box to highlight.
Google has actually moved away from supporting podcasts without 3rd party software, whereas Apple introduced a dedicated app with iOS 6.
It seems to me that the bottleneck wasn't the hosting, but the man hours being wasted on them. Google could have reduced their involvement to providing an API and the development could have been managed by community.
It's easier said than done, obviously. Maybe the bottleneck was psychological and focus related, and they wanted to wipe the slate clean?
It is notable that Google doesn't internally use services. If for example they wrote everything to work on appengine/cloud in exactly the same way and APIs as outsiders do, then spinning out would be a lot easier. http://steverant.pen.io/
Not bashing Google, but there's always posts on Medium about how some startup got bought by Google, promised they wouldn't change anything and within a few months, simply dropped the project and laid off the employees.
So for all intents and purposes, the original project is dead.
Thus the B2B offerings underperform, making it more likely they'll get killed off.
I follow google reasonably closely and I haven't even heard of a good 40% of these.
Picnik was best of its kind and IMHO better than Photoshop default filters.
Google bought the service, there were plans to add it to Google+ Photos, never saw the great Picnik filters again.
My first computer was a Timex 2068. Like many I eventually went through a love/hate relationship with Microsoft products, to eventually realise, that when compared with many enterprise companies, Microsoft is quite good.