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I'm not entirely sure what point you're trying to make here.

If you're insinuating that I don't think of the wider business value or the business as a whole then that is just false and what I have written is not meant to be interpreted as such.

Also your examples seem to be non-sequiturs, neither are relevant to the point I've made.

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There's always a rift between what one means for other people to understand and what they actually do. Case in point, I thought I had made a clear statement that I thought your post was disingenuous and immature and did you a disservice by casting you as more of a coder than a valuable engineer.

I'm not saying I'm right and you are wrong, I just made a reflection of how you came across. Was that clearer now?

As for my points being non-sequiturs, I'll admit that I fail to see _any_ point in your post other than you don't know what a product manager _is_ and you feel attacked somehow, so there's a fair chance you are right.

It's a direct response to the original post, visit the link at the start. The point is answering the points raised in that product owner's post.

My point is that product owners should stop telling developers how to do their job, especially when the "advice" they offer is without value at best, and at worst insulting.

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