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I wish more companies would be transparent about salary ranges in job postings (e.g. more like CyberCoders - http://www.cybercoders.com/search/?searchterms=php&searchloc...). It is a waste of time going through the process of applying and interviewing only to find out we are in different zip codes on compensation. There are a few job search sites that have thankfully addressed this issue, and working with a recruiter also helps.

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This ^^^, Even when looking on our own internal job posting board where I work, you can never find out how much a job pays, or even a range until you've been offered a position. Wastes tons of peoples times.

Having just gone through this, I agree completely. Even if they post a range, employers still play hardball with salary. The only way I had any leverage at all in the last negotiation is because I knew what the range was in advance, otherwise I would have seriously undervalued my skills.

This makes a ton of sense. Role and salary should be discussed up front, so necessary conditions are established.

Follow up - what stops you, as a candidate, from discussing this upfront?

Follow up - what stops you, as a candidate, from discussing this upfront?

It makes you look greedy. I am greedy, but it's bad form to appear that way. In the same way you want sex on the first date, but you can't make that known before the waiter has even taken your drink orders. That's why I like working with recruiters (not the sex part)...the recruiter can get the ballpark for me (or already knows it if the company is a client) and we can decide whether to even pursue it.

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