But both these sites still suffer from "the flash", where it renders once, and then renders again half a second lafer with everything moving. It's disorientating and simply a bad UX.
Also the BBC used yo have this terrible experience for a few months where it would flash up a load of code, but they finally seem to have fixed that.
IMO both these sites are presently advertising that the responsive trend sucks ass.
I have started to realise that compared to the desktop sites it's almost impossible to get information out of these mobile sites at anywhere near the speed or information density I previously used to simply using the built in pinch and zoom and desktop layouts.
Like you scan broadsheets and desktop layouts, but the mobile you get a big, useless picture and a story title.