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All this discussion about the GPL being the only way to protect users seems to be ignoring the fact that the GPL is largely irrelevant in the web era. All of us are using proprietary software that contains GPL code every single day. We can't see the code because the GPL has no effect on networked applications.

That seems to be a much more important battle to fight, rather than trying to stop people using GCC for code completion and refactoring in emacs.

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Isn't that exactly what AGPL is trying to stop?

None of those web companies will use agpl software.

Well. Lots of them use mongodb though.

mongodb has a licence exception to allow people to use it without releasing the code for the rest of their app: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8966182

Yes, but no-one's using it.

Massive implementations of Odoo/OpenERP in some of the largest corporations and public entities of some countries beg to disagree :)

Nobody cares for those. We're talking at the level of Google YouTube, Facebook etc here.

This is a "No True Scotsman" fallacy.

"No true Scotchman" only applies if someone purposefully constraints the set that he talks about to win an argument, not when he had some typical Scotish qualities in mind in the first place (as opposed to outlier characterists) and merely clarifies that.

Some AGPL installations of a niche software ain't exactly refutation of the parent, unless by "nobody" he meant actually "absolutely 0 people", which I don't think anybody did. Nodody is a stand-in for "not significant numbers".

What percentage of projects announced and featured in HN in the last 5 years use that licence?

It's not worth it reasoning with this guy. I had a very similar situation with this guy. I asked him "are you claiming X", which he said was a strawman, then refused to explain what he was claiming and called me a sockpuppet.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8940531

man, talk about your sour grapes. two days after the thread was frontpaged, even. anyone that reads the link will see how your post was an obvious strawman. You even finished the thread saying "I'm done". and now you're on an unrelated thread, clearly not being done with it.

Nice to see you again, though.

You're right, I was curious whether it was just me you played the insane game of "pretend what they said is fallacious then when they explain why they're wrong call them an astroturfer".

Seems to be only you, from the looks of my posting history. Perhaps you should have checked there before making an ad hominem?

My post wasn't an ad hominem. You don't know what ad hominem means. And no, it isn't just me, I can see there are many others you add to "your list" and incorrectly call out as being fallacious.

Once again, here is your (incorrect) logical fallacy naming game.

see, now I'm in this for pure entertainment purposes. it's been over a week, and you're still trying to play the "last word" game.

not only is it sour grapes, but you're still making baseless accusations. I was correct about you in the first thread, and your continued participation in this one keeps proving I was correct.

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