Hacker News Reader

Comment by Delmania | Hacker News Reader

I'm not sure they will migrate Visual Studio. First they'd need to move WPF, which is implemented in DirectX. Second, Visual Studio and MSDN are still profitable. Third, there's the Omnisharp project that;s working on providing support for the more common IDEs on linux. In fact, there's nothing stopping people from making Eclipse and IntelliJ plugins.

View on HN

Silverlight's implementation of WPF runs on OS X already so presumably a lot of the ground work, at least for an OS X port, exists. I'd buy a copy of VS for Mac in a heartbeat.

Same. I haven't run windows in 7 years, but Visual Studio is still one of the best IDEs I've ever used. I'd gladly pay for it if it was released on OS X/Linux, although that's somewhat contingent on the plugins that I want running on it too.

Doesn't Windows cost like $200 on top of a $1000+ copy of visual studio? Why draw the line at not paying for the OS?

I'm talking about an alternate universe where it's available on OS X, and it's about $45 per month if you get the subscription version.

The other thing is that I want to use OS X for everything else -- I much prefer using it for development above Windows, so while you may be correct in terms of sheer dollar value comparison, in terms of opportunity and switching costs it's quite higher than that for me personally.

Having used Eclipse, IntelliJ IDEA, Visual Studio in some fashion over the past year, I personally prefer IntelliJ for its well thought-out interface, low footprint, numerous productivity-boosting shortcuts ( I love Help>Productivity guide) and refactoring options, etc. I literally pine for IntelliJ's features when I use Visual Studio. In fact IntelliJ offers the very popular but pricey Resharper extension for Visual Studio to bring Visual Studio on par with IntelliJ's IDE.

I really hope that JetBrains are working on a C# support for IntelliJ.

I'd buy the next version in a heartbeat if they offered it.

Haha, they just sent me an email about why I haven't upgraded to the latest ultimate version. I think cross-platform .NET(F#/C#) support would be the clincher.

A few weeks back I asked Scott Gu if there were any plans for Visual Studio on OSX/Linux and the answer was no. He mentioned they're focusing on Visual Studio Online, though I don't know if that means some sort of online IDE.

I wonder how long it will take a courageous developer to port WPF to OpenGL.

This has been asked about for nearly as long as Mono and WPF have been in coexistence. I would say there's very little chance this will happen. However, a recent update in the WPF world is MS has actually been ramping their WPF team back up after it looked like it would suffer the same fate as Silverlight. So who knows?

Check out https://github.com/grokys/Perspex

>> First they'd need to move WPF, which is implemented in DirectX.

What version? There is DX9 support on Linux and IIRC a partial DX10/11 implementation bit-rotting somewhere.

DX9 support is still experimental and requires an unstable Wine fork to make it run.

I have to say I managed to have it working and I got a 50% increase in FPS in Steam/Source games running under Wine.

There's the "old" DirectX -> OpenGL translation layer in Wine but it is not really efficient or performant, although it may be enough for GUI applications.

>> There is DX9 support on Linux and IIRC a partial DX10/11 implementation bit-rotting somewhere.

Sadly Gallium3D isn't "Linux" yet. It's only really usable on AMD open source drivers that is very small portion of market and I would say it's 15% at best, but in reality likely 5-10%.

Reply on news.ycombinator.com