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I think a lot of that is switching cost, and that both OSs are pretty similar now.

My recent experience on OS X: - Couldn't find an easy way to get windows side by side[0] - Installed a program, but it just kept crashing on launch until I rebooted the computer - Challenging to figure out how to get Finder to actually show you the drive contents

[0] http://www.howtogeek.com/181681/4-hidden-window-management-t...

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I use a tool called "moom" for window management. Gives me the ability to snap windows to edges of the screen (like Win 7 does), plus the ability to snap-size windows to a grid. Can't use OSX without it.

"moom" is great but I prefer "Spectale" and its keyboard shortcuts

Its 2015, if we need 3rd party tools for window management, then someone is really screwing up.

I've used Apples since 1993, with a brief (enjoyable) gap of a couple of years writing C#.

It's the Apple way. They decide you don't want something and it's infuriating.

But the rest of Mac OS is quite good, I quite like Finder, and with bash, a JVM, a good browser and text editor, that's enough to overcome the frustration of "Apple knows best".

I see a lot of people want window snapping, and I avoid switching because of this also. However, after switching, window snapping frustrates me. Occasionally I need it, so I use a tool for it, and I take advantage of it about once a month.

Maybe if windows offered gestures and was POSIX compliant I wouldn't mind switching. Then I would want a laptop that is about as thin/light as a retina with an equivalent display and trackpad plus a MagSafe style adaptor. Then I would want a proper package manager and a time machine style backup solution.

Then I could try to find a way to integrate iOS services into my workflow properly, but I still won't have iMessage, which is a bummer. I would consider that a point against apple if I didn't like iMessage/FaceTime so much. I guess that could be factored into switching cost. I just don't care to leave iOS at this point.

I will agree that finder is really unnecessarily frustrating and that there are a few drawbacks to OS X. Especially with a couple random bugs lately. However, the experience, for me, has been overwhelmingly net positive, and there are just so many things I would miss by switching right now that I don't see it happening.

> Then I would want a proper package manager and a time machine style backup solution.

I don't know specifically what you need from Time Machine, but File History in 8.1 (and somewhat, Windows Backup on 7) does full image backups and incremental backups. It could be integrated better, but you can go back and see your files and folders at whatever point in time you desire. I have it setup on my FreeNAS and it works well enough.

An old comment of mine is relevant again:

As a veteran system builder, I was rather surprised when I looked into laptops recently to find macbooks very competitive.

I dislike Apple as an organization due to their marketing practices, closed ecosystem, and apparent lack of respect for their customers demonstrated in their reaction to bend/antenna gate. Apple even works hard to hide what processors their systems are actually running!

After much digging, though the hardware costs slightly more, MBPs come out far ahead as a package with OS X - a full featured OS with a healthy ecosystem and excellent battery life. I couldn't find a better option for my intended user.

I use http://www.bettertouchtool.net for window snapping (among other features).

Finder has always been disappointing in my opinion. Regarding the two windows side by side, you should have Spectacle a go, it works wonder, but the feature is indeed not included in OSX. I have always found the way OSX manages windows to be confusing, and the new fullscreen behaviour does not help (I know alt clicking the full screen button shows the previous behaviour but still...)

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