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I'm considering in staying with Yosemite and iOS 8, and haven't seen any singificant breakage over previous versions.

If anything it's better than Mavericks. And Mail woes are 99% gone too.

Just to add another viewpoint, since only people with negative experiences tend to write.

Of course all software has bugs, but not everybody is bitten by all of them. Some are legitimate complaints. Other are by peoplw who install every BS addon, haxie etc they find, have el-cheapo external peripherals, or blame third party software issues to the OS maker.

(That said, I've had the "22 px sheet" bug, and it's the second point release already --I run the beta--, it should have been fixed by now, and I dislike how they abandoned Aperture).

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On the other hand, I'm still (on 10.10.2) experiencing severe window server bug where desktop just slows down to a crawl (all animations, window switching, missing control etc. run with less than 1fps) after some time of using the machine. Rebooting the system helps for awhile... and then it slows down again.

The issue seems to be limited to only nVidia equipped rMBPs, but honestly, I did not expect a brand new laptop (I have mid-2014) for 3kEUR to stutter just running desktop animations you know?

I have this too with Yosemite - mid-2012 rMBP, 16GB RAM. It feels snappy when freshly rebooted, but after a period of time (hours? Probably not minutes...) all desktop animations start to become really quite obviously sluggish. Swiping between spaces is painful.

You do not expect this on an expensive machine that is barely two years old.

I also have wifi dropout issues, Mail is increasingly slow and unpredictable, and iTunes... Christ, don't get me started on iTunes.

My wife's 4 year old MBP, with 4GB RAM, was usable with Mavericks but is now basically unusable with Yosemite. I'm hoping more RAM and an SSD might sort it out, but I'm not overly hopeful.

I've been a more or less full-time Mac user since about 2003 and I don't remember being this frustrated with their software before.

If this is the same issue I've been having, the seed prices starts gobbling up gigabytes of ram, and thats cause similar issues for me.

> or blame third party software issues to the OS maker

I think we are seeing exactly the opposite effect: People who use third-party software are complaining less.

Safari is buggy (swipe-to-go-back gesture sometimes freezes until I reboot), iWork has been ruined, Apple's photo ecosystem is a terrible mess, iCloud reliability (for documents) is a joke.

If I was using Chrome/Firefox, MS Office, Lightroom and Dropbox instead, I would have very few complaints about Apple's software quality.

I still have the Yosemite wifi issues. It really rustles my jimmies. At the same time, I forgot how much faster ethernet is over wifi so that's nice.

God me too, spend so many hours trying to fix but still, no dice.

Yeah, I have to add my voice to this viewpoint too.

I definitely have annoyances with Yosemite – GUI performance on a rMBP is lower, which is particularly noticeable during Mission Control use. I've also got the irritating slowdown/flickering menu bar bug that I've seen people report. But generally everything else has been pretty great.

I do wish Apple was more public about bug tracking – I'd love to see a public database of known bugs so we can track progress or something like that.

If anybody's interested in seeing some public information about known bugs, there's public user-driven "mirror" called Open Radar ( http://openradar.appspot.com ) that's really helpful. If you file a bug with Apple you can copy/paste the description (as well as any responses from Apple) there to help others

I'ld love to see bug voting on Open Radar. Identifying the most important bugs would become much easier.

Unfortunately many bugs are not copied over there. I myself am guilty of not going through the hassle of mirroring every bug report I submit.

In the end, I believe it is more worthwhile to just file bugs [1] en-masse to have a "this issue is public" checkbox in their bug reporting interface. If enough people request this feature hopefully they will add it.

[1]: http://www.openradar.me/radar?id=6399875268739072

>since only people with negative experiences tend to write

I haven't found that to be the case at the Apple subreddit on Reddit.

IMO, it depends on the topic and where the discussion is located.

Agreed, upgraded since the beta and had few issues, and only then on beta releases that have since been fixed. Not sure how constructive this comment is, but thought it was worth seconding your experience.

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