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When I think about it, it's probably not actually different from just having an open collective that takes on ideas and builds them for clients for free, but this is a distinctively less personal feel... but 10% is (in my opinion) a pretty hefty amount of revenue to share for just hosting.
If I'm understanding correctly, 10% revenue sharing for the simple value proposition of connecting you to people who want to build you app and hosting your app seems like too much.
Maybe I'm just not open minded enough for this to seem like a great idea to me yet
Most importantly there already is a community of other engineers, designers, and even creatives interested in helping with marketing/distribution.
FWIW - other marketplaces often charge 30% or more (e.g. heroku, apple).
I think the idea is novel (at least it is to me, I haven't seen another effort like it yet other than the open collective idea I mentioned earlier), and I think it's really interesting.
Maybe I can try and describe the nagging feeling better:
tldr - It feels like Assembly makes it easier for startups to be a machine with people-shaped cogs. I might also be completely wrong, and that is actually the better way to go (or the path that people will be happy to travel once they discover assembly)
It feels like assembly is deconstructing the startup model (which is probably good and bad, maybe mostly good):
- (+/- technical) founder => person with idea
- initial dev team => contributors
- VC => Assembly (w/ revenue share instead of equity)
But I think that something gets lost in that deconstruction. The founders become "just" people with ideas, and not people who grew, nurtured and fostered a company/entity. I realize they are the core team, but learning all the accounting, finances, legal, and operating costs bits are kind of valuable to a budding founder. I may even go as far as to say that a person with an idea != a founder specifically because of the transformation that happens from having to deal with all that administration (otherwise known as running a company).Similarly for the dev team, they're invested... but I don't think they're as invested as they could be, or as part of the living breathing entity (figuratively) that is the company -- it's almost like being a freelancer/contract worker (more the disenfranchisement that might occur, I think, less the health benefits/other usual problems)
And while the marketplace itself (Assembly) takes on quite a fair bit of risk in hosting the sites and providing all those services for free... I can't help but feel like the profit they may make comes at the cost of stunting the growth of a founder and her/his development team.
If I could put it in a sentence, I might say that this system makes it easier to treat people as cogs.
On the flip side, this could be a completely inane over-reaction, I may be on the wrong side of a trend that is about to be huge, and streamline startup culture in a big way.
Thanks!
> If I could put it in a sentence, I might say that this system makes it easier to treat people as cogs.
I appreciate the candid feedback but this is the opposite of what Assembly is about; cogs don't make great products with care and attention.
The internet is best at bringing people together to create something bigger then what any one person could do alone. Open Source and Wikipedia are examples of what can be created this way. I believe this is the case because of an open collaborative model - where people that love what they do can do so with their peers. They are free to create and innovate how they want, on what they want, and where they want to - ultimately leading to our best work.
Assembly is trying to give people working alone on passion products the boost of an entire team of diverse skills and engaged partners - only there because they care about what they do - while at the same time ensuring all those participating can be fairly rewarded with any success that they create.
I think it would be much more useful to have a meetup-style site to find people locally to work with, then let them organise between themselves if they want to start a company etc.
On the other hand for a pure opensource, no profit, MIT-licence kind of thing Assembly would be OK. The problem is Assembly wouldn't make money out of that model.
It maybe something that GitHub or Apache could promote though.
They could very well take projects in varying stages of completion and provide services, and maybe the costs can be worked out or something.
Reaching out to them and asking how they handle your use case (someone with like 80% of a project done who really wants help for a final push + release), should be education for both parties.
If still doesn't fit what you are looking for, StartupHub has a similar concept without taking revenue or acting as a middleman. Just focusing on the crowdsourcing and collab side (like the iWeekends).
It should be up and running soon
Want to let them know? They've turned off issues on the GitHub repository, they have no Twitter account, and you have to register for Assembly even to raise a bug.
Want to send feedback? There's a form at the bottom of formspree.io and we've got people in the community that are now responding to those customer service inquiries.
Several have asked about the 10m delays. We switched email providers so we could improve our email deliverability and spam filtering. But the new provider is throttling us while they get a sense of our email traffic. I've been told that it should be back to normal soon. These are growing pains.
Frankly I'm pleasantly surprised to see the project gaining momentum. The alternative would have been to shut it down.
The fact that Brace/Formspree allocate so many points to customer service inquiries on Assembly sounds like you're being inundated with questions that could be managed in a more open fashion?
I've been considering open-sourcing it and just hoping for the best. So this is a good alternative to investigate first.
The app's about 85% done. I'm very open to how development can progress on this. That being said, I won't be offended if think200 doesn't fit Assembly's model.
Initial work developing the API (10 hours of work, say) would be valued at 5000 credits but then after launch someone tweaking the color of a button might get set at 2000 credits.
Perhaps there needs to be a review process for tasks that go through a list of per-project moderators? Both for reducing cruft, keeping focus on the currently-important stuff, and to normalise bounties across the project's lifetime.
Alternatively, the bounties could be semi-invisible, instead with tasks assigned to various levels of difficulty and importance...
Should you ever find your side project un-savable - for a variety of reasons (commitment issue, personal, emotional, what-not), then you can always take your project to SideProjectors and let others take over. :)
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