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SlimRom's another nice ROM that has Lollipop support. I'm using it on my 2 year old Galaxy tab 2 and apart from a few minor bugs, it's running fine. SlimRom supports a good number of devices too(most samsung devices and almost all flagships), although not as many as Cyanogen.

I used to use it on an S1 to get something not 2.3 that wasn't terribly performing

I really wish there was a project that provided AOSP builds with no modifications apart from enabling root (which is just a configuration setting), without Play and all the other proprietary stuff, and with the option of providing OTA updates.

Basically I can compile AOSP myself, but I don't want to. I want OTA updates, I don't care about any "enhancements" Cyanogen added, and I'm happy with OSS apps in F-Droid instead of Play.

Am I alone in this?

Replicant, perhaps? http://www.replicant.us/

But without the proprietary drivers, not much of the hardware will be functioning. No GPS, no 3D acceleration and no hardware video codecs.

I don't mind the proprietary drivers and firmwares. (Actually, I do, but I'm realistic and know that the completely open source phone won't happen ever, so I just accepted it.) What I'm after is stock AOSP (with binary blobs, if no other options exists), with root access, and without the proprietary Google apps (not because of their proprietary nature, but because they are of absolutely no use to me, I'm happy with the open source equivalents). Replicant tries to clone the proprietary bits, but that's not what I'm after.

I'm only after convenience. As I said, I can compile AOSP, but I don't want to invest in this maintenance work at all. I just want a plain Android that can update itself. Basically the only thing I'm after is OTA updates to stock AOSP. I don't care about modifications, new features, or more free drivers. If such a project ever appears, I'll be the first to donate. I would even pay for a subscription to such a service.

That is what CyanogenMod is... AOSP (+drivers) with a few tweaks/addons (that can be disabled), root, no Gapps, and gets OTA updates.

There are some ROMs out there that are closer to AOSP but normally have limited phone support and no OTA updates.

I doubt anyone would go to the trouble of creating a Android ROM for different phones and not tweak anything on it.

AOSP doesn't include drivers so you meant to say stock Android builds.

I mean AOSP plus drivers, but without the proprietary apps like Google Chrome, Play, Maps, etc. The stock Android builds do include these apps (please correct me if I am wrong).

But what I really am after is not some build of Android, but the service that enables OTA updates to this build of Android. I'd even pay for such a service.

You are right, I misspoke... "Stock Android" includes the Gapps.

I'm kind of surprised that the Nexus 5 (hammerhead) isn't in the first batch of devices, since it's the last Nexus device that was released without Lollipop, and stock Lollipop has been available on the Nexus 5 for a while.

It's especially weird, since the Nexus 4 (mako) is in the first batch of devices. I'd expect the more recent and more up-to-date devices to be easier to port, and also a higher priority.

That said, this has taken a lot less long than I'd feared, so I'm pretty excited to see this! Privacy Guard alone is worth the switch to Cyanogenmod[0], in addition to a number of other tweaks that CM allows.

[0] Yes, it's available on rooted non-CM devices, but it's much cleaner when it's integrated into the ROM.

It makes me sad every time I see a new CyanogenMod release, that I seem to have picked the single Samsung device that is locked down more than any other (AT&T Galaxy S4). If someone knows a trick to getting a custom ROM loaded on this device, please let me know. I've tried the "SafeStrap" method with no success. It seems like the XDA community has moved on from this device as well...

You can call your carrier and request they unlock the device('s bootloader). There are also a few services that you can send some information to that will unlock it for a small fee.

These sorts of shenanigans are a big part of why I haven't had any desire to switch from my S3, since even with the neat specs, you could hardly call swapping performance, personal control, and extensive added functionality for bloatware and unalterable permanently out of date OS versions an "upgrade".

Damn that's quick! These guys are fast.

Not sure if sarcastic, LG G3 already has 5.0.1 released.

Pretty fast considering the amount of hardware being targeted and the amount of enhancements above and beyond stock Android that they are supporting. I mean, they're bringing Lollipop to HTC's flagship device (m8) before HTC is (if you don't count the "Developer Edition").

Not being sarcastic. The cyanogen guys don't have the support such as early releases, drivers, etc that LG and the other manufacturers have.

im not sure if this post is sarcastic

Putting some nightly fun on the bacon!

Please share - I'm waiting for that as well (another bacon owner)

Especially the unlock/lock features of Lollipop are interesting: Don't lock it near my laptop/car etc. or let me unlock it with my yubikey.

looks like Oneplus One is on the list, or do you mean official OTA version? I have a feeling that's still month away.

The G2 has no active maintainer (Ricardo Cerqueira / arcee / rmcc) and is still running with a modem and kernel corresponding to the Jelly Bean version. The current maintainer has lots of patches waiting to be reviewed in the Gerrit and is ignoring them.

If the current management model of CM allows this to happen, it can be safely assumed the quality of this ROM leaves a lot to be desired.

Are you suggesting CyanogenMod threaten the current maintainer with violence to get him to do something? That would be their only option as all the maintainers are volunteers. Hopefully someone else will step up and take over the G2 maintenance.

The support of a single device reflects the quality of the project overall?

When it's one of the most sold phones, yes.

Irreverent... What don't you understand about the maintainers are volunteers?

He got lots of LG phones as a compromise that he would develop for them... so...

Who is giving this person these phones?

I can't remember well, this was like 2 years ago, or even more, but I think it was LG, as part of their compromise with the developers, or God knows what.

No, LG is probably not giving phones to someone to develop a custom ROM. Even if a person was given a G2 I am sure by now they have a newer phone so it would not really be much of an incentive.

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