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"I'm starting to think that it is easier not to track changes/state for forms anywhere if it can be avoided, and to basically extract all of the values out of the form manually via the DOM whenever they are needed"

Can you expand on this some? Is there a particular line of reasoning which lead you to this conclusion?

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i think i should remove that statement from the article.

i think i was overreacting (pun intended) and it was a mostly unqualified opinion. my feelings were more so of inconvenience and thinking that there was little benefit to actually having form values on the state (possibly specific to my use case, which didn't require any additional logic for form values).

using the pattern mentioned in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8811617 would remove a lot of work that I initially thought was necessary, or using the LinkedStateMixin from addons everywhere.

will fix. apologies for misleading

[edit]: article updated.

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