North Korea's Official Statement
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But from the tone of it, and from the actual text, I could understand:
1) They claim that US State Department helped in the creation of "The Interview" and that the movie promotes terrorism.
2) They claim that the Sony hack was perpetrated by terrorists, because terrorism breeds terrorism.
3) They claim they have nothing to do with the Sony hack, although they approve it.
4) They claim they are really, really angry at US behaviour of accusing them, and they will retaliate, including militarily.
Interestingly enough, they don't mention their own networking getting killed.
Nope, they just say that the US shouldn't jump to conclusions, that they've never performed a "cyber-attack" on "south Korea" (which is irrelevant here) and that they don't know who the "GOP" are or where they are. No denials apart from that.
So they are denying both attacks.
Nobody considered Hitler or Stalin to be laughing matters during their purges. But somehow we can all ignore the horrific crimes of these bastards because the father was ridiculous and the son is fat. Nobody gives a damn if the Kims rape women, torture civilians, or murder innocent families so long as their victims are Korean. No, the first time we see even vaguely appropriate anger toward these dictators is when they might have hacked a goddamn MOVIE STUDIO.
MacArthur was right. Truman was horribly, horribly wrong. And innocent Koreans have paid for Truman's cowardice and vanity with half a century of utter brutality. The only thing wrong with The Interview movie was that it was a comedy rather than a true story.
Could you expand on this?
There's the escalation with China/nuke part of things, and there's the total rejection of civilian control of the military part of things.
Perhaps it's best he didn't get a chance to do all that.
It should also be noted that North Korea, while the instigator of the war and a Communist country, was in a very different position in the 1950s. It was a richer country than South Korea until the 1970s, and South Korea at the time was an American-backed military dictatorship. While there may have been a moral argument to roll back Communism as far as possible, Truman's concerns about the geopolitical implications of expanding the war were very real, and calling them cowardice is a rather crude mischaracterization.
http://my.firedoglake.com/inoljt/2012/11/30/how-north-korea-...
The Chinese intervention in Korea was overwhelming, and Americans were forced to retreat -- and considered evacuating the peninsula altogether. MacArthur, fresh from Japan and the Philippines, was determined to save Korea from its modern fate and threatened China with war if they would not withdraw from what is now North Korea.
Truman had already significantly interfered with MacArthur's prosecution of the war, and eventually relieved him entirely when he felt MacArthur was too provocative. That led to the use of North Korea as a Chinese buffer state, much as Stalin used Eastern Europe, and to the situation we have today.
It's one of the worst blunders in the history of American foreign policy. Now, not only is North Korea a paranoid dictatorship with more than enough conventional arms to reduce South Korea to rubble within hours, they're armed with nuclear weapons and increasingly hostile even to their Chinese sponsors.
Since I identify as mostly liberal, I always defaulted to a defense of Truman. But I was wrong. Truman's failure should have stained his legacy, not MacArthur's. And for exactly the same reasons I outlined, MENA states dominated by fundamentalist Islam must not be allowed to gain nuclear weapons. Rogue states and lunatics have ruined too many lives to be protected by a kneejerk fear of war.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_Truman's_relief_of_Ge...
MacArthur undermined the chain of command. That's why he was relieved. Full stop.
It's too bad how it work out for all parties involved, particularly the people of North Korea.
I'm trying to think of this alternative scenario that Western cultural sensitivity would have helped , considering their propaganda for 70 years has been targeting America with unbridled hatred.
Even in modern times there are very few options other than China and recently South Korea's attempt to start collaborating on industry. Economics is the only way out for them. And the burden of which is on surrounding Asian countries. There is a zero chance war will result in any good. Or that being nice to them will win their hearts.
That being said I have called out comments this week where people said:
> Wouldnt it be awesome to watch NSA go all out on DPRK? Replying with:
> Yes, and more poverty and starvation for all too! /s
Spreading freedom is right, and I can see the good side of US authorities in this. I imagine there might be lot of people living in North Korea under medieval set of freedoms (but we all lived through that and is it that bad?).
But people can't open up easily, even if you are trying to help them. It takes time. If we want NK to come to terms with upholding human rights, we need to give them time. While at the same time pushing them a bit as well. Sometimes I wonder if that is what is happening. US the lash, Russia/China the console. If that is so, then the culprit is neither US or NK or Russia, but us, for over-reacting in certain senses.
For example, in the above translation there is a line: "all war spaces including cyber warfare space to blow up those citadels."
I think the above line was for 'biased or mistaken/unbiased' reasons miss-quoted/translated by some in the US media, as 'North Korea threatens to blow up US buildings'(creating unnecessary tension based on the events of 9/11). Instead it might have meant "breaking a nexus". But anyways, quite a few media outlets ran that story. And I guess, to some extent the comedic approach to North Korea is thus needed. But that should not mean disgracing its leader directly. Tease but don't Touch!
Perhaps I shouldn't say unparalleled -- Germany succeeded under American guidance, as did Japan despite a radically different culture and people. There was a time when we could rebuild countries successfully.
Notably, of course, Germany was full of Germans and Korea was full of Koreans. Cultural values allowed these countries to succeed, just as they ensure the failure of secular states in the Middle East. I don't advocate intervention everywhere -- and I think it's idiotic to try to set up democracies, even puppet ones, in countries hostile to essential Western values -- but the success of South Korea displays the huge loss the world has suffered from the Communist domination of North Korea.
It's simplistic to declare that "there is a zero chance war will result in any good." We sacrificed American lives to save Europe and much of East Asia from hellish regimes, and those were the right calls. It would have been the right call to save Korea as well. War hasn't helped Afghanistan -- because nothing will help Afghanistan -- but we used to have the wisdom to know when intervention was worth the cost.
Short version: international treaties building up to a "we will enforce international law" army, where everyone else in the treaty has to turn on one of its members if they are accused. The army's job isn't to wage wars, it is to forcibly arrest suspects, to be tried at the Hague. Suspects must be "members of a government" (any soldier, civil servant, elected official, spy, etc)
the idea requires lots of definitions first (not least who is in a government), but that's the gist of it. This is not an idea I throw around lightly, as people tend to misunderstand it readily. I know that it is far-fetched, etc, no need to remind me :)
They think doing what they do is good, you think it is bad, who's right?
Are we going to start a war every time we disagree with the choice of a country? Might as well nuke the whole earth.
Here are the only two statements that could be assumed to be a denial based on the broken English present in this:
> though it is not aware of their [GOP's] residence.
> Yet, we do not know who or where they are but we can surely say that they are supporters and sympathizers with the DPRK.
Even these two strongest denials are entirely consistent with the DPRK "hiring" the "GOP" to do this task for them.
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This is what I thought the first time I heard about this movie. I thought that it's either puerile and immature or crafted and malicious (while still being immature). Then again screenwriters have always been desperate for ideas...
In that context it seems like quite the leap to suspect some sort of conspiracy here to get this movie made.
Places that fascinate people and get their imagination going will get movies made about them and that’s that. The plot is also quite obvious. What do Americans do with tyrants? They kill them. Wow, what an outlandish trope no one ever thought of before …
Make that a comedy and you get this movie. No conspiracy needed at all.
If an anonymous hacker attacked a cause that you supported but you didn't know what they were going to do next, would you publicly support them?
I can't even begin to contemplate the lulz that would be had if GoP turned their attention to attacking North Korea.
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- http://www.businessinsider.com/north-koreas-official-stateme...
- http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-30573040
And an "annotated version":
- http://www.vox.com/2014/12/22/7434177/north-korea-sony-trans...
On a technical note all styling is inline and the body background should be `file:///C:/images/kabe-0.gif`.
There's also the fact that if we actually militarily threatened them there'd be thousands of missiles fired, and Seoul would be ashes. There's also a risk that they could use nuclear weapons or chemical weapons on S. Korea. N. Korea is a state that has sacrificed everything to prop up a military regime, and invests more in its military than any other part of society. S. Korea with the US as an ally would certainly win a conflict, but N. Korea could cause some seriously devastating carnage before it was over.
Free speech or not, it is in poor taste and i'm damn sure that if the protagonist had been Obama instead of Kim it would definitely not have been made.
Sony, you made a bad call, you got p0wned. Take it like a man.
Obama, why are you even in this conversation.
DPRK, hire a better translator, yours sucks.
http://time.com/3640774/the-interview-sony-north-korea-movie...
The major failing of this movie is that it was going to suck. The trailer screamed "unwatchable".