The Cult of the Bulletproof Coffee Diet
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I get it that under extreme physical circumstances (high in the Tibetan mountains) coffee mixed with butter can be a good way to replenish your energy quickly, but I'm not sure how this can be extrapolated to our more sedentary lives.
Even if the boost in energy (undeniable since you're ingesting a lot of fats) does make you feel good, it doesn't necessarily translate into long term benefits.
I'm wondering if there are any studies showing the effect on cholesterol, insulin levels, fasting sugar levels, over time.
And then can't help but getting very skeptical of the whole thing when I read that some of the products on sale on the website are marketed for 'brain detox'.
Sounds like snake oil to me.
To me it tastes like coffee, with butter. I take your point about half and half, but the butter just made it seem wrong, wrong, wrong. As weird as putting ginger ale in a piping hot cup of Earl Grey.
As far as the, "it will change your life" crowd goes it just seems like different strokes for different folks to me. These are probably the same fad jumpers that were having their life changed by something else last month.
Very true :).
I'd like to try it myself (sans clip). I have tried tea with butter, but, well, it probably needed a more thorough blending.
So? Why are people so fixated on insulin?
>isn't digested nearly as quickly as carbohydrates, so it keeps you satiated
And yet potatoes are the highest satiety food. The whole "fat is filling so you eat fewer calories and lose weight" thing is just a hypothesis that was put forth to explain why people eat fewer calories on low carb diets. It is not fact.
Maintaining normalized insulin levels keeps your body burning fat, which is a slower burning, preferred source of energy, but most people eat so many carbs that their body never relearns how to do it.
This isn't rocket science, it's basic biology.
Insulin is released when your blood sugar is elevated, yes.
>When that happens, your body goes from it's fat burning mode (default state) to carb burning
That is a complete misrepresentation of reality made by people pushing a fad diet.
>When those stores are full, then it stores the rest as fat.
So? What do you think it does with fat?
>but most people eat so many carbs that their body never relearns how to do it.
Your body does not forget how to burn fat, it does it all the time.
>This isn't rocket science, it's basic biology.
Yes it is. And it does not support this weird fixation on insulin. https://evolvinghealth.wordpress.com/2013/05/22/is-it-time-t...
> That is a complete misrepresentation of reality made by people pushing a fad diet.
What's your understanding that happens then?
>When those stores are full, then it stores the rest as fat.
>So? What do you think it does with fat?
For most people, it stores it as fat and does nothing because most people eat enough carbs (quick burning source of energy) to never have to switch to fat burning.
Read the link.
>For most people, it stores it as fat and does nothing because most people eat enough carbs (quick burning source of energy) to never have to switch to fat burning.
So insulin is a problem because of what then? And how is that different from what would happen if you replaced those carbs with fats? (Please don't actually answer with the keto nonsense, read the link and see that the answer is "nothing would change").
Were you the author of that link? Because if not, then that is someone else's understanding, what is yours? You've yet to describe it.
> Please don't actually answer with the keto nonsense?
Are you actually denying ketosis[0] exists? Or are you claiming it isn't reached through carb-restriction[1]?
I haven't quite understood you point (mostly because you haven't really made one), but it seems science disagrees with you :\
[0] http://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?hl=en&q=ketosis <-- I'd say the academic community disagrees with you.
[1] http://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?q=ketogenic <-- Again, the academic community disagrees with you.
No. What is the purpose of ignoring what I posted and asking completely random non-sequitur questions? Are you actually denying pancakes exist? Or claiming they aren't made with flour?
Come back when you've actually read a little bit about how the body works. I've given you plenty of scholar links to start at. Maybe just strike up a conversation with a diabetic, explain to them your theory on how insulin has no effect.
Insulin is the mechanics of how sugars and proteins are processed (whether as energy for muscles or stored as fat). Leptins are the process which update the brain. (i.e when you are hungry/full etc).
Both obviously have huge implications on weight management. So it isn't a "weird fixation on insulin", it is weird that Leptins are not mentioned more often. But maybe that is diets not wanting to over complicate things. Where as insulin is more widely understood because of implications in diabetes etc.
> >When that happens, your body goes from it's fat burning mode (default state) to carb burning > That is a complete misrepresentation of reality made by people pushing a fad diet.
No it isn't. It is a simplification, but not really a misrepresentation and definitely not a complete misrepresentation. Sugar enters blood, Leptins signal brain. Pancreas produces insulin, insulin blocks tri-glycerol from being released from existing fat stores, and begins either replenishing glycogen stores from the blood, or producing more tri-glycerol. (This is still a simplification)... But please point out the misrepresentation, because if were trying to be more concise I would say: "switches from fat-burning to carb-burning/fat-storing".
Why would it say something that absurd, and why do you think I believed it did? I said nothing even remotely like that, and that doesn't even make sense.
>Both obviously have huge implications on weight management
Except that the evidence suggests otherwise, that's the point.
>But please point out the misrepresentation, because if were trying to be more concise I would say: "switches from fat-burning to carb-burning/fat-storing".
You just did. There is no "fat burning mode" and "carb burning mode". Again, the link I already gave you very nicely and clearly discusses this.
You referred to insulin as a "weird fixation" as if it were meaningless in a weight management context. And your response above is just obnoxious, if you have a point make it, stop referring to it. Obvious troll is obvious.
> Except that the evidence suggests otherwise, that's the point.
No, it doesn't. Evidence suggests they both have huge implications. You remove leptins you get a high correlation with obesity (as mentioned in your own article). You remove insulin you get "difficulty storing fat", you pump insulin high, and you get high storage of fat. Try out a google scholar search on "insulin resistance", "diabetes and weight management", "insulin fat". Again make your point rather than referring to it, as it looks to me you are just running out of actual knowledge and resorting to rhetoric.
> You just did. There is no "fat burning mode" and "carb burning mode". Again, the link I already gave you very nicely and clearly discusses this.
You chose not to include my expanded description of what happens. Now I know you are trolling...
It is.
> And your response above is just obnoxious, if you have a point make it, stop referring to it.
I have no idea what that means.
>No, it doesn't.
Contradict the evidence in the link I gave you then. "Nuh uh" is not compelling.
So when I say you said it was pointless, you say "No I didn't", when I say "you kinda did", you say: "yeah I did".
trollololol
> Contradict the evidence in the link I gave you then. "Nuh uh" is not compelling.
How about you contradict the peer-reviewed evidence I gave you... and I'll treat your wordpress blog for what it is: A wordpress blog.
Summary: "I don't like the evidence so I'll ignore it" is not compelling. Being a low calorie, high volume food is not "artificial" satiety, it is satiety.
I know that. And I am saying they are basing that on nothing. They just said "the data is less important than what we think the data should look like based on our feelings".
>Have you ever eaten a boiled potato with nothing else on it? It tastes terrible
Yes, they taste fine. Obviously they taste better with salt and pepper and butter, but they are not unpalatable without them. Have you ever eaten boiled pasta with nothing else on it? How is that more palatable?
I find it hard to think that amount causes a person to avoid potato. Did the researcher actually notice potato-aversion, or are they (and this is not a bad thing) speculating?
Because insulin regulates the metabolism of carbohydrates and fats by promoting the absorption of glucose from the blood to skeletal muscles and fat tissue and by causing fat to be stored rather than used for energy[1]. Accordingly the body's insulin response has a massive role in weight management, and certain foods invoke a greater insulin response than others.
You're one of those "calories in - calories out" guys, I take it?
Except this second part does not follow from the first part, and all available evidence suggests it is false.
https://evolvinghealth.wordpress.com/2013/05/22/is-it-time-t...
(Obviously "do both" is an answer, but the idea is not to pick the optimum strategy, it is to illustrate where people should direct their limited focus...)
As far as the coffee goes, it's pretty good coffee, but Dave uses the "no mycotoxins" as the selling point for his brand. For me, the whole mycotoxins thing is where things start to get a bit muddled as there's a debate on whether or not they actually matter (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwY4H3cNTH0).
I wouldn't go so far as to call it snake oil, but I don't think all of his stuff is 1000% necessary.
They reference Kunin 1989 [1], Shirai 2002 [2], and Shirai 2007 [3].
Chinese snake oil is a reasonable source of omega-3s.
[1] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1026931/pdf/west... [2] http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/S0271-5317(02)00426-8 [3] http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1444-2906.2003....
First off, the Aero Press didn't really impress. I got rid of it - it just wasn't worth it for me. I could never make it 'work', coffee was always thin.
As far as the Bulletproof coffee, it was too 'light' for me. I know Dave was talkin about making a darker roast, but at that time his roast didn't really appeal to me. I was doing French, Italian, or Espresso roasts via drip funnel for a while and I had it down pretty good. I felt like I had a pretty rich and big flavor, but I was willing to try the low toxin approach. Didn't hold me for very long.
Also, Dave says he can thrown down multiple cups of this stuff and after the first cup (I would even thrown 1/2 stick of butter in), my stomach was not happy.
I get where he is going with all this. I've been to Tibet, I've had yak tea, I've had Chai in India, etc and the Bulletproof method just didn't do it for me.
But back to fat. I've actually moved to a high fat diet (more or less). I don't do anything low fat. I do veggies and meats and for the meats, I want the fat. My morning always consists of some sort of fat - only grass fed butter with eggs, full fat yogurt, etc - and it works for me. Nothing processed, whole foods only.
For my coffee I love Weavers. They have fair trade organic and their French roast is really good. Prob one of the darkest roasts I've tried that just has this really killer smooth, nutty flavor. I use whole cream and a little sugar. I love it.
My weight has pretty much stabilized. I'm not super lean, but I'm not super lardo either. If I hopped back on my bike, I could prob drop 20lbs in a few months. My LDL checks in at normal and my doc said nothing is crazy out of balance.
Everyone has theories and Dave's are interesting. I guess it just boils down to trying different things and seeing what works.
If you fancy giving it another go and haven't tried it already, the general approach used by most champion baristas who use Aeropress is much hotter water (around usual brew temperatures, 90 - 96C) and the "inverted" method - see http://stumptowncoffee.com/brew-guides/aeropress/
> butter > yogurt
Hmmm.
Processed = Convenience food
The bulletproof diet is basically at it's core a very low carb/paleo/ketogenic diet, incorporating intermittent fasting.
Mark Scisson has pretty much the same approach with his Primal Blueprint - re-branded diet and prepackaged lifestyle.
Using healthy fats as main energy source, skipping breakfast and excluding carbohydrates from your nutritional intake would regulate your insulin sensitivity, blood glucose levels, respectively leading to imoroved energy balance.
NOTE: references to be included.
Don't forget the coffee! You can get everything you mentioned just from caffeine!
"As you can see, the Fullness Factor does a reasonably good job of predicting the satiety responses, with the possible exception of potatoes. Note, however, that the methodology of this particular study may have contributed to an artificially high satiety value for potatoes. Per the study's design, the participants were separately fed 220-Calorie servings of each food. A 220-Calorie serving of plain potatoes is larger and much less palatable than the other foods studied. The size of this serving may have influenced a repulsion to this test food that goes beyond the normal satiating response."
All sources I could find talk specifically of boiled potatoes, as opposed to e.g. mashed potatoes, and apparently they all go back to one study which was not replicated. You can trust it if you like, but don't pretend that everyone else should. Read Ionnadis ("most published research is false"), and the recent nature cancer reproduction report (48 of 53 highly celebrated results about cancer that were published in Science and Nature were not reproducible).
They have an extremely good match for everything other than potatoes. The right thing to do, practically, is to ignore the outlier for most statistics on one hand, and to try to reproduce the outlier results on others. Theoretically, you would believe nothing and do everything again (and again) until you have perfect correlation between theory and practice.
Either way, every google search I've found says "potatoes are the exception" and they all seem to trace back to one study. Trust it if you like, I don't.
This website describes a simple regression (with 4 to 9 degrees of freedom depending on your underlying assumptions, let us assume 9 which is the "worst") that has a good match to that data of 38 points; if you are familiar with the quality of nutrition "science", this is actually extremely good match - e.g. atwater factors are often 30%-50% different than expected (and assumed "ground truth" based on 100 year old measurements) when actually measured. You have to not trust either atwater or the more recent measurements - possibly both.
Now, this regression, seems to hold very well with the exception of potatoes. From this, personally, I would infer either (a) a mistake somewhere in the data collection or (b) potatoes are special among the foods tested in a way not captured in this regression.
Actually working in data science for a living for a few years, my experience is that the practical thing to do is to drop the outliers from your dataset on one hand (so that your regressions and descriptions are robust with respect to the data that you DO consider) and investigate the outliers on the other hand, to figure out if it's an error in the input or a missing input (e.g., I would guess measurements like "water per cm^3" and "weight per cm^3" might be good measurements - if I had a proper "test set" to validate them against; just adding more measurements is usually NOT what you want to do).
Potato could be special in its effects on hunger / satiety - I don't know. e.g. among common food items, fresh eggs and fresh milk are special in the sense that, unlike any other "single" food item, they are each individually enough to sustain life. But based on the data I can find by googling (hardly anything to base policy on, but what I personally used as input) - I assume that, for whatever reason, potatoes are an exception to the general rule.
You may disagree, but I hope you at least understand my response.
The website's numbers are not a dataset. Again, it is made up numbers by a random website. There is no evidence behind it at all. The study's numbers do not have outliers, you only want there to be an outlier by comparing the dataset to completely made up numbers with no basis in fact.
Did we look at the same website? They give the formula by which they derived the numbers, based on "standard" nutritional data for those foods. It's not a dataset per-se, it is (supposedly) a simple and easily reproducible computation of a widely available dataset. (No, I did not try to reproduce though I would if I were going to take any action based on this).
Why would you assume it is random?
And I ask, again, if you can point me to the two independent studies that confirm potato's properties, because I can only find one.
Because it is? If I just say "here's how filling food is: calories * pi * r2", that doesn't give you a data set, it gives you made up numbers.
And if you believe (as I do) that all of this is entirely unscientific, but some of it is sort of useful - than what exactly are you arguing?
No way is right (I actually tend to like the extreme ends myself), but I find Sisson's approach is typically more end-user friendly (especially for newbies).
This seems to be about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemoencephalography (in case you are going "What?", as I was). His company sells a machine for it.