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They ended up raising a very large seed round (1MM+) from a VC and pre-negotiating a follow-on of equal size, should they need it.

So my guess is that these founders were either already successful previously, were well connected or had already bootstrapped quite a bit of the technology that would underlie the product (ie patents, team, etc...). Any or all of that the case?

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It was an experienced salesperson who saw an open market, paired with a repeat startup CTO.

They did their research and validated the market by finding prospective customers before raising. Which is a good model to remove risk from any venture – especially one that would take many years to build.

Yes it would be nice to know what the background of the founder were here. I have a feeling they were not three 22 year olds on their first startup.

I would argue that three 22 year olds on their first startup shouldn't be building a product that can't be validated by the market in one or two years.

I an not too sure about this. The debatable issue is should any investor give them any money or not? Since I doubt it almost never happens we probably don't have the data to know if it would work or not.

Define validate. That is kind of the crux of my question. If it means "profitability" then that is a different threshold than "users." I am trying to figure out what PG is trying to describe.

It's pretty obvious when it happens but it's most definitely not profitability. Rapidly growing usage (ie, traction) with an envisionable business model is usually sufficient. While the revenues themselves are not strictly necessary, it does help to demonstrate the ability to collect them.

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