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Docker's 'new' direction is to direct its attention towards solving the orchestration and management problems involved in actually running infrastructure on Docker.

A number of third parties had begun work on various (sometimes proprietary) orchestration and management systems for creating a reliable/scalable/easily manageable cluster with Docker as a building block. CoreOS is one. But Docker is pushing towards an official, open-source orchestration/management system that threatens to make all of those companies irrelevant.

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> Docker's 'new' direction is to direct its attention towards solving the orchestration and management problems involved in actually running infrastructure on Docker.

IME examining Docker, this is actually the hard problem.

I think it is a great stand for Docker. Very recently (IMHO in 1.3), it merged the functionality of Fig into Docker.

I think Docker orchestration and coreos can coexist - if I had to use COREOS to use the goodness of Docker, then systemd-nspawn would come and eat Docker's lunch.

I wish that Docker bless one of Ansible/Chef as the official orchestration base and take it forward. I really don't want to earn something Docker specific.

Fig functionality was not merged into Docker's 1.3 release.

Ansible/Chef orchestration IMHO solves a very different problem than container orchestration.

You're right - I was referencing this bug here (https://github.com/docker/docker/issues/8637), but seems it was not merged into mainline.

I agree that Chef and Ansible are different than container orchestration today - especially, when you look at low level stuff like networking, mounts, etc... But I guess what I was saying is that it is not hard to add these features to them.

They already have a specification format that works well and check for idempotency at its core. Unless you mean something like etcd is fundamental to container orchestration, which I don't believe it is (we run a couple of containers in production using Fig)

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