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Cloudscale – Swiss virtual servers

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If you're looking for a provider already out of beta, I'd encourage you to check-out https://exoscale.ch (disclaimer: I'm the CTO there).

We have object-storage, a heroku compatible PaaS and our cloudstack based IaaS. We also contribute a ton of dOSS things whether in existing projects (riemann, collectd, graphite) or home grown projects such as http://pithos.io

If you're keen to try out, you can register with the WELOVEHN coupon which will get you started with a few more credits than the usual CHF20, we also do special prices for startups, available here: https://www.exoscale.ch/pricing-target/

>>heroku compatible PaaS

Are you based on Cloud Foundry?

No not cloud Foundry. LXC containers with the right orchestration.

should check out kubernetes

Thanks! Signed up and pointed my Arq backup at your S3 compatible service (one of many backends).

nice, duplicity also works out quite well for this use case.

>> ... can register with the WELOVEHN coupon which will get you started with a few more credits than the usual CHF20 ...

Looks good, but I don't see an entry for the coupon and the "usual" credit appears to be CHF 5?!?

On https://portal.exoscale.ch/register just hit "I have a coupon code". Otherwise, the default credit when you don't have coupon is indeed CHF 5 which gives you a couple of days to try out.

The right thing to do in this situation is refrain from commenting in the thread at all.

Whoever "cloudscale" is, I'm sure it's a big deal to get on the front page of HN and having a competitor sneak in their promo codes in the comment thread to snipe potential customers probably puts a damper on things.

Classy.

Whatever the ethics of it, actually I am currently looking for a Swiss based hosting provider that looks a lot like cloudscale/exoscale. However Cloudscale is just "coming soon" and Exoscale isn't, so knowing about it was rather useful. Actually I had no idea that you could get advanced app hosting platforms like this that were regional. I thought Heroku was it.

Exoscale would get more money from me if they had hosted postgres as well as mysql though.

hi mike, we actually do have mysql available and PG is on the roadmap. https://www.exoscale.ch/add-on/mysql/

Why? It's extremely relevant, and it's useful.

No mention as to whether Bitcoin (or Paysafecard) will be accepted, there is no point talking about PRIVACY when only payment methods such as paypal or credit cards are used which do not offer Privacy

Does being "Swiss" mean much in international terms, for something like this? That is, if I, as an American citizen, have a server with these guys, and the USG comes knocking wanting to image my instance, are they going to offer any more resistance than a US (or German, or South African, or Mexican, etc.) provider?

How do they differentiate themselves from other providers? Feels like the ordinary "it will sell because it says Swiss all over the place".

>How do they differentiate themselves from other providers? Feels like the ordinary "it will sell because it says Swiss all over the place".

Good luck with that. ☺️ Swiss privacy laws aren't any better than, lets say, Germany's, but you pay a lot more for less (hardware, bandwith) due to limited competition.

Also a large number of data centers here are owned by US corporations.

Does anyone know in who's data center they are?

I guess they are in this one https://www.metanet.ch

http://www.e-shelter.ch/ more likely, as they are mentioned in the "technology partners" part at the bottom of the page.

I must agree that the Swiss privacy law (DPA - Data Protection Act) is similar in the requirements it commands to data owners. The significant difference is that it not only applies to individuals like in Germany or EU but to Corporations too.

https://www.exoscale.ch/infrastructure/security/#data-protec...

If they are using OpenStack, I would highly encourage them to not screw with the basic Glance setup. I've used ~10 public cloud providers who run OpenStack now, and most of them screw Glance up in one way or another, rendering the rest of the offering fairly worthless because of the inability to use custom images.

What are some examples of screwing with the basic Glance setup? Not allowing custom images?

Not allowing custom images, not allowing certain formats, not allowing the use of a URL (which Glance then d/l and manages), not allowing uploading and simply not configuring the endpoints to be advertised AT ALL.

I guess this is a good time to ask, then: can anyone recommend a good VPS provider with servers in Switzerland? (as in: not in beta, but available today)

I rented VPS 2-3 years ago from https://www.privatelayer.com/ not sure if they still do VPSes tho looking at the site now.

I mentioned https://exoscale.ch in another reply, we're doing more than VPS and have been out and serving customers for a while now !

Would it be ok to run a tor exit relay on something like this? I recently decided to contribute to the project, but have been realizing that finding an Exit-node friendly host is basically impossible.

Would love to run one here if it's allowed!

Wow is that map widget annoying on mobile. It takes up the whole screen and eats scroll gestures, making it impossible to get last or go back.

It's the one from Mapbox. On my own site I had to fiddle with it to get it to work properly with mobile.

We have a few Dalco (swiss server co.) servers in our data-center here in Ticino. They are as good as normal Dell rackmount servers.

Are they using a proprietary cloud platform or one of the open source ones?

As far as I can see they're using an Open-Source platform (on the first paragraph they mention it).

Do they mention what exactly? As near as I can tell, that could just mean they're running Linux on Xen. That's "built on open source".

i imagine hosting a datacenter in switzerland has got to expensive like everything else in that country，and typically renewable energy technology is just as expensive

Anyone have any idea what their pricing will look like?

I was wondering that too. Seems like it would be useful info.

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