Why I gave marijuana to my autistic child
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(But I am not a doctor, neuroscientist, pharmacist, chemist, psychologist, etc.)
I think this is probably a symptom of what I described above, rather than the root cause. Read Temple Grandin's book Animals in Translation if you want a better account.
The book is written by an autistic woman who discovered that she has a really uncanny ability to understand animals. Basically she is able to see which stimuli are causing cattle and other animals to freak out, and the way she is able to do this is because her perception of the world is altered in a way that makes these stimuli (and their effects) more salient. For example, she will realize that the reason the cow won't move is because it sees a shadow, which no one else can recognize even though it's right in front of them. Apparently both autistics and animals are set off by some of the same things, because they don't have the natural ability to generalize phenomena. (So if they see a shadow, it's like a completely new thing to them each time and it scares them.) Although it seems like this particular author has learned to intellectualize that ability, so as an adult she has learned to get around the fact that the part of her brain which is supposed to do that isn't working. Anyway I'd really recommend this book, it sounds really flaky but it's incredibly intellectually interesting, and has so many implications for so many things it's ridiculous.
(Note that there may be several types of autism, which science hasn't yet differentiated because people could be having different subjective experiences, while the behavioral outcomes are the same. I'm not saying this is the case, it's just a possibility that has to be kept in mind, because people as introspective and articulate as Grandin are rare so understanding in these areas moves slowly.)
I feel for the parents - autism is a very difficult issue to deal with but this seems to be helping their problem more then their sons.
Basically, it would appear that the upside is that his lessened aggressive behavior is allowing him to engage in more constructive behavior.
But you are right. We have to wonder if the marijuana usage is doing more for the child or more for the parents.
Do any Biohackers on here know of any sex based differences in the effects of THC? (I know sex hormones are strongly affected).
Marijuana itself is described by many enthusiasts (including Terence McKenna) as 'feminizing'. In other words, the way a man will perceive the world when high is somewhat similar to the way women perceive the world normally. If you want a more scientific look at this, this book is a presentation of a pretty good large scale study done on the effects of the drug.
I wonder if a medical study for something like this would be feasible. I also wonder if there could be negative long term or developmental effects from a treatment like this.
Finding enough parents willing to let their autistic kids participate would be challenge enough. But on top of that they would all have to live in California, where you can get the legal pot license, and the study would have to performed without causing a big uproar in the community.
Sounds like it would be quite challenging, but not necessarily infeasible.
If you're contacting practitioners who already prescribe MM they're unlikely to speak out against the study, besides you could force non-disclosure agreements on participants. It's kind of morally-grey, but if there's big enough concern about getting shut down then you'll get enough people willing to sign an NDA in the chance they might be able to help their child.
This wouldn't be the sort of study you stick an ad for in the sunday paper.
IIRC it doesn't matter what state the research is done in once the study gets approval from the federal government, which is needed anyway. That's why they're allowed to do psilocybin research at Johns Hopkins. (Which they still need about 70 more volunteers for; if anyone wants to participate, check out csp.org.)
As far as having to happen in a state w/ medical marijuana, I also don't think that's necessarily true. Human research on controlled substances is pretty common, but requires the researcher to get past a lot of DEA & institutional HSRC paperwork. That's how the research that supports medical marijuana was performed in the first place.
Amazingly, a google scholar search for marijuana (or thc) and autism turns up nothing relevant. Really? It's amazing how little we know.
Here I might add, for no particular reason except human interest, that I have never in my life consumed marijuana.
The fact it shot to #1 and then dropped to #28 in less than an hour though surely points to it being a niche interest within hacker news.
I changed the frontpage ranking algorithm slightly yesterday, and I tweaked it again today. The reason it seemed to take effect suddenly is that I had pasted the new version yesterday into the server repl, and news had restarted since then. When I pasted the tweaked version into the repl 2 hours ago, it visibly changed rankings.
I'm not saying that everyone should do drugs, certainly not, but if you don't at least take the time to learn about this stuff then you're cheating yourself out of a big piece of the human experience.
It is a daring move that I'm sure will bring much criticism from less liberal members of society. That by definition makes it something that I as a hacker would be interested in. I upvoted it for that reason.
Are you saying all hackers are liberals?
Obviously not. My point is that I as a hacker am a person interested in people who do things in a nonstandard way. Giving a kid pot to treat autism is nonstandard, therefore I am interested in it and in other people's responses to it whether they be liberal or conservative.
Having said that I'd still prefer hacker news had a sort of programming/startup/tech focus. Articles like this are always on Reddit for those who want to see them.
It didn't work. It drugged him to be more passive, but had no effect on the actual autism.
Seemed like a plus to the parents though, and from what they write the kid was happier. But it was not a cure at all.
Next we'll hear about ADHD being treated this way.
Drugs to cure every ill.
http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/8jwno/why_i_am_g...
It's probably better than the other shit that doctors would put him on.
That's why I use HN not Reddit.
Come back in 300 days, you might have a valid point by then!
On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity.
Come on.
I didn't say it's not hacker news. I said I don't see what it's got to do with a site ostensibly titled "Hacker News". I think that's a fair question, isn't it?
I do want to say that I think you're really overreacting though. I was asking why this was hacker news because I was trying to give you (and by extension all of the upvoters) the benefit of the doubt. Ordinarily I'd just flag something like this and move on, but since you usually have pretty insightful things to say about a wide variety of topics, I admitted that I didn't get it and asked for clarification. I think it's unfortunate that you took it as some kind of attack on your person or on your taste, or whatever. I know what the guidelines are on this site, I spend more time here than I spend with my wife; so I don't really need them quoted back at me.
I also get that autism is a big deal, I have 2 family members who work with autistic children every day; and I can tell you that they aren't going to start telling people to get their kids high because it worked for one person who had the idea to toss a pot brownie junior's way.
Limited use of non-addictive psychedelic drugs, such as cannabis, LSD, psilocybin, nitrous oxide, etc., used to be relatively common and is still regarded with more tolerance than in the mainstream culture. Use of `downers' and opiates, on the other hand, appears to be particularly rare; hackers seem in general to dislike drugs that make them stupid. On the third hand, many hackers regularly wire up on caffeine and/or sugar for all-night hacking runs.
http://plumeria.vmth.ucdavis.edu/~saintly/bio/portrait.html#...
Here's an old wired article on the asperger's/hacker affinity: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/9.12/aspergers_pr.html
2. If a computer receives unexpected input, it may exhibit abnormal behavior. When it is given such input intentionally, we call that either hacking or taking drugs, depending on the computer.