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A bit off topic, but it'd be interesting to have a guild for the startup/HN crowd. I've been discussing returning to the game with a few tech friends and joining a like-minded group would probably make it a lot more fun.

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That'd be really fun actually. But I'm still having mixed feelings about how dumbed down the game got over the years. The complexity of it during vanilla + the first two expansions really made the game fun for me. But with the homogenization of stats, and removal of lots of skills, the game just isn't fun for me anymore. Then again, I haven't played Warlords. I stopped playing when patch 6.0.2 came out.

The Blizzcon panel on why they removed/simplified a lot of stuff was great. It is well worth watching if you can find a copy.

Basically they had a lot of abilities that weren't fun, and a bunch of stats that made the game suck. Most people were going to Ask Mr Robot to figure out which piece of gear to put on, and Icy Veins to figure out what button to press when.

They needed to carve out all the old cruft before they can add the new and exciting back in. I was equally cynical when the shattering happened, but after a few content patches was quite happy with the change.

> But with the homogenization of stats, and removal of lots of skills, the game just isn't fun for me anymore.

This is a common gripe but I fail to understand it. I've been playing since BC and I never found it "fun" getting my gear hit-capped, or watching gear drop that wasn't useful for anyone in the raid, or having skills I never used.

The best way to deal with that is to see a new expansion as a new game altogether. What I enjoyed during Vanilla isn't the same thing I enjoyed in BC, etc. Right now, with Draenor, I'm having fun with Garrison which is a kind of Farmville where you can hire NPCs going on mission for you, have NPCs crafting and gathering for you. I never thought that would be the thing I'd enjoy in the game, and have I read about that pre-release keeping in mind what I enjoyed doing then, I would have questioned Blizzard for including this in the game.

I enjoyed the game so much because of the great people I met and played alongside there. I also think the startup/HN crowd is really great, and I'm sure a guild with that mindset would be very fun and rapidly improve. It would be interesting to be a part of that. However, I believe most in the startup/HN crowd can't afford the time required to be active in the game while also working on whatever drives them. And guild chat would probably be similar to but more limited than HN.

I played the game for a few years and it was absolutely fantastic, but I played only till Cata.

There is tiny chance that I might play WoD but I don't get the time to play WoW as much as I used to get in my college days.

But if you are really sure about playing, I would be more than happy to join you.

I wouldn't mind having company over. I'm on Medivh Alliance side and my character name is the same as my HN name.

Edit: I'm only playing casually.

If you post the server / faction, I'd resubscribe to play in a guild like that.

I was thinking of resubscribing. What server/faction are you guys?

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