Teespring Says It's Minting New Millionaires Selling Its T-Shirts, Raises $35M
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There's lots of great businesses where people pay you for a service, but if you can create one where people make money when you do, they are heavily invested in your success.
We are making entrepreneurs out of ordinary people, it's fking awesome.
"Uber driver" is just another term for unemployed.
Or, people are naturally entrepreneurs stifled by regulation and AirBnB, Uber, Udemy and TeeSpring are simply allowing the people's natural entrepreneur spirit to shine through by shifting the compliance burden away from them.
>people are naturally entrepreneurs stifled by regulation and AirBnB, Uber, Udemy and TeeSpring...
Not really. Renting out your house to someone is not entrepreneurial. Neither is driving people around in your car or teaching people. Further, I know of no regulation that prevents people from teaching for money. As far as Teespring "designers", those people are not entrepreneurs either. They are simply affiliates who market for Teespring and who also happen to give over whatever creative ability they have to Teespring with the hope of being paid for it.
In all of these cases, the people being touted as "entrepreneurs" are no different from employees working as independent contractors, and in some cases it's worse. The only entrepreneurs here are the companies that built the platforms and convinced people to give over their time and resources to generate revenue for their business.
One can make value judgments about whether it's good or bad for the people who participate, but to say that they are creating entrepreneurs is literally saddening.
> Further, I know of no regulation that prevents people from teaching for money.
I do, because unfortunately the government has been using them against bootcamp schools:
> To achieve compliance, institutions must pay a $5,000 application fee; provide a course catalog, enrollment agreement, and performance fact sheet publicly on their websites; and submit a few other minor documents included on the application.
http://readwrite.com/2014/02/18/why-coding-bootcamps-should-...
> Over the past month, California regulators sent cease and desist letters to many of these hacker boot camps, saying they run afoul of the state’s educational laws, as first reported by Venturebeat. “They’re not properly licensed, and the law requires them to be licensed to offer an educational service like they are,” says Russ Heimerich, a spokesperson for the California Bureau for Private Postsecondary Education, or BPPE.
And, in the case of the boot camps you mentioned, it kind of argues against your original point. That is, they apparently ran afoul of the regulations because of their attempts to make it a business that could be classified as an institution versus there being individuals who could have generated income from their labor, if not for some onerous regulation.
More relevantly, no one would have stopped any "teacher" from creating Udemy style online courses on their own domain.
That situation in CA is intresting though. I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for sharing.
1) Not sure why all the hate towards us. We can take a company from zero to millions overnight. I get that there are some shady stuff floating around but that's not 100% of the industry.
2) Facebook + Teespring is almost a perfect combination.
3) Aff. Marketeers have created some issues in FB using Custom Audiences (T-shirts that said stuff like "This was made specifically for Joe"). Those sold like hot-cakes but FB went down hard on them.
4) Everyone wants a piece of the action, that's why you see so much tutorials and stuff around it. It's also a great way to learn Aff. Marketing if you are into that.
People associate it with the most intrusive forms of online advertising including spam, toolbars, pop-ups/unders, misleading ads, annoying banners, and much scummier stuff.
It also doesn't help that is a strong association and overlap with the "get rich quick" folks.
There are definitely affiliates out there that add value, and affiliate programs in general can be a very profitable channel when managed properly. But there are MANY bad actors out there, and just as many eager newbies ready to take what they say as gospel based on promises of quick cash.
Possibly the largest affiliate network would be Amazon Associates. You sign up for an AA account, and you share your affiliate link for products with other people. If you do it casually (e.g. just recommending to friends and family on FB), then you can get some extra pocket change. If you do it professionally (e.g. actually finding a niche, doing market research, building a website w/ a capture page, etc), then you really need to work on promoting the products, which can be a full-time job in itself.
Of course, Amazon doesn't rely on its affiliate program to be big, but that's also what's great about being an Amazon affiliate--you don't really need to "sell" since everyone knows Amazon.
I can't think of any legit affiliate websites off the top of my head, but just imagine a site about dog training (a very popular affiliate niche). It has some free content on how to effectively train your dog (which could be valid or invalid), and in the content are some affiliate links. If the content is actually valid, and it works, and it's actually good content, I don't see how putting affiliate links on the article is spammy. I always appreciate it when a blog post links to a product it mentions because it saves me from having to Google it (but I will anyway to get a best price).
Of course, you can have complete spammy people, who have fake websites with false content (or crappily outsourced content) and comment random people's blogs for link bait, and unfortunately that's a practice that some "mega affiliates" promote in their "how i became a rockstar affiliate" products, but it's not fair to judge affiliate marketing as an industry based on a few bad eggs, no matter how numerous they may be.
It doesn't just come from the affiliate side. It can also come from the retailers and networks.
I don't post much, but based on what I see here, many startups would be 10x more likely to succeed if they knew how to correctly leverage the affiliate channel for traction and growth.
One of many things Teespring did right was to build features into the platform that enabled affiliates/marketers to profitably test, optimize and scale their tee shirt campaigns.
For example, the ability for marketers to easily place their Facebook conversion/retargeting pixels on the Teespring site, meant that affiliates now had the visibility needed to profitably spend their own money promoting Teespring campaigns via paid acquisition channels (mainly Facebook ads).
I'll agree partly with you and say that there's a segment of the affiliate community that you want to stay away from, and I'm sure Teespring has their share of trouble affiliates. Unfortunately, the rotten apples are usually the most visible and make the whole community look bad.
Here's what I see is needed to help solve some of these problems:
1. More transparency into the affiliate marketing channel. Startups need to feel comfortable knowing that they are not working with affiliates that use unauthorized marketing methods and messaging.
2. Affiliates need to be more comfortable knowing that they are not going to be cut out once a business sees the successful methods being used by affiliates to drive sales, leads, growth etc. Teespring's model actually does a lot to protect affiliates and the designers that use their platform because the interests of both parties are closely aligned.
3. Startups need more education about the affiliate marketing community and the best ways to leverage affiliates as a traction channel. It's unfortunate, but the comment from @dsugarman is a perfect example of what can go wrong while Teespring shows what can go right. They basically turned every single person who designs a shirt on their platform into an affiliate, and gave them all the tools and support they needed to succeed.
Out of pure curiosity, can someone decode this into non-marketer speak for me? Not trying to be rude, I just genuinely have no clue what it means (I'm a developer who knows nothing about marketing).
Let's say you are buying ads from FB. It's common practice to test multiple ads. (Images, Headlines, Ad copy in the body, targeting (who the ads will be shown to).
The hope and idea is that one or more of these ads will work better than the rest. It's a bit like how YC invests in a lot of startups, not all succeed, the ones that do get more money, the rest run out of cash and go out of business.
To help you see which ads are working FB cookies and tracks everyone who clicks your ads. However they don't know if a click results in a sale/lead unless you send them confirmation that a sale/lead happened.
That's where the pixels come in. The term pixel can sometimes be confusing, because these days it's usually a snippet of javascript that makes a call to FB. I haven't looked at the back end implementation, but I assume the JS loads an image.
In short, this allows FB to attribute the sale/lead to a particular ad. With enough data, you can then weed out the ads that are wasting money, and focus on the ones that work. Al lot of time you can optimize further by building out variations of the winning combination.
All this is cool, but if you don't control the conversion page, and this is the case for 99.999% of affiliates you can't place your FB pixel unless the company you are working with provides a means for you to do so. Sometimes it's manually done, other times it's automate like what Teespring did.
QUICK PRIVACY WARNING: Placing a 3rd party pixel code on a conversion page has to potential to leak private information to the 3rd party. This usually happens if your customer's info is in the url variables of the page hosting the pixel. When the page loads, all the info is passed to the 3rd party pixel in the referer info.
Actually, with Teespring, the "designers" are affiliates.
Surprised that no one seems to have noticed this.
But this is great news for Teespring. Congrats to the team.
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Rudimentary comparison: there are 422 <a> tags on CafePress's home page and only 47 on TeeSpring's
Further, once you're on a TeeSpring product's page, it's the only product there (focused call to action to buy that one product being marketed) compared to CafePress where the product page has a bunch of other "similar" and "recommended" products diluting focus.
May be counter-intuitive but adding more options seems to be to CafePress' detriment.
Does this mean they sold a million dollars plus worth of shirts OR that, after all expenses, they netted a million? The phrase millionaire implies the latter but that is a far higher bar to cross.
Not asking about business stuff specifically, but the usability or whatever-it-is that this newer stuff does that the older online t-shirt printing businesses don't? I don't really understand their story about starting because they couldn't find someone to make their t-shirts...
TeeSpring is kind of like a Kickstarter, you setup a picture of what the T-shirt would look like when printed and then no money changes hands until you hit your "funding level" of a certain number of shirts, and there's no excess inventory because they only print exactly the right number for the sizes that people ordered.
It's a really interesting model.
TeeSpring is almost exactly like CafePress or Spreadshirt or Zazzle or Threadless or ... isn't it? Aren't Reddit just moving in to this space (perhaps white-labelling one of these services?). Fair play to them if they broke in to this market (which seems pretty crammed) and took a relatively large slice of the pie.
When you look at their board, you see visionaries, not operators.
The obvious solution would be to set up another factory. Suppose for simplicity that this costs $25 million and allows a doubling of capacity. suppose further that TeeSpring is making a profit of $100,000 a week (a completely imaginary figure - I know nothing about their finances). Because it's near full capacity that weekly net isn't going to increase much. But saving up the money to purchase the factory outright would take 4-5 years - an organic growth strategy - is plenty of time for competitors to move against you and pull away customers.
So you have a couple of options. You could go into debt, either by getting a loan or issuing a bond that pays interest (effectively the same thing). Now some of your income goes on interest payments, but they're tax-deductible and after you've paid off the debt you'll still have the second factory. As long as the increased income resulting from the investment is greater than the cost of borrowing the capital then going into debt can be perfectly sensible - the same reason it makes good sense for governments to splurge on necessary infrastructure during periods of low interest rates, just like we're not doing now due to politics :-/
Another option is to issue equity, ie sell shares in the company to raise the money. For large firms this may not be any more attractive than debt, because shareholders will expect a dividend of some sort. For growing firms it makes a ton of sense because early investors are not so much interested in dividends as in the possibility for the shares to appreciate in value - who wouldn't have liked to invest $1 million in Google or any other large company back in the early days? This is ideal for a firm like Teespring that has a very simple and straightforward business model - manufacturing a basic consumer product like this is great from an investor's POV because it's so easy to analyze.
They do sometimes, but in recent years banks have been more reluctant to lend and issuing bonds typically involves an awful lot of legal overhead, so I think it's just easier to issue equity. Another reason is that if business doesn't go as well as you hope the debt might allow creditors to secure your secured assets/stock, whereas if you issue equity that's not an issue. Also, for early stage companies raising equity can be a good way to meet people you'd want on the board advising on the future direction of the firm.
But you know I just know about this second hand from being into economics. If you search for 'capital formation' you'll find lots of stuff and some people like grellas here at HN are specialists in that.
Also things like IP, or growth curve, can usually not be used as collateral. You start to need deep analysis of those assets and people willing to bet on them which is where VCs come in.
You could start by feeding the machine $1, waiting an hour, then feeding the $1.20 back in, and so on. But you'll get richer far quicker if you persuade somebody to lend you $1M and directly dump that in to the machine.
One example that was mentioned in the article was building a factory. Obviously that requires a huge chunk of capitol but will allow the business to grow to fill the market that they have confirmed to exist.
edit: typo