If u don't like the Squeak UI then take a look at Pharo: http://www.pharo-project.org/home
PS:- Funny thing is according to my above logic I wasted a whole post just to make you understand the not so great value of two extra characters
Content is important, of course, but atmosphere matters too (at least to some people).
Edit: For what it's worth, I didn't downvote the comment being discussed.
As to the fuckery analogy I wanna say that it would not leave the post entirely understandable because you will have to still think if the word was actually part of the sentence or not?But I think (dont bother to deny it) that everybody who owns a mobile or had used internet would know simple things like "u" stands for "you","ur" stands for "your" and "bt" for "but". And if they dont its entirely possible to get that from context. But your fuckery example is just opposite.Nobody will "know" and will at least have contemplate as to whats the use of that word in the context.
For the 1337 point I wanna say two things. First if the author sounds like six but has a good or at least competent thing to say then whats the matter?You should just except the authors view and choice, also be scared by the fact that he is competent with you by the age of 6 and he would be surely outsmarting you when he reaches your age. Secondly I too dont like such 1337 language, but only when the spellings are so obscure that the reader may never even begin to understand what the word is. But again when someone rights "u" you can easily understand that he means "you" which is not the case when someone writes 1337 $|o3/-\|< |=/-\57 3|\|0U9|-| u </-\|\| 937 /-\ |0T 0F \/\//-\7 |7 5/-\5, 7|-|3|\| U c/-\|\| F|9uR3 0u7 \/\//-\7 u |\/||553o|.
I know to some people atmosphere is very important (like my college professors), but what dont understand is why these people dont understand that for some people it is not. To some people its just the content that matters the most (if you can understand it fully of course). If you expect people to respect your choice, why not first start to respect theres? Or like mahatma Gandhi once put it "You should be the change you want to see in the world". And here by change i mean respect for other people's choice.
PS:- I dont really care if you are down voting me or not, I am already having a rough day at the forum and I am actually eager to see if karma can go into negative or not.Nor do I expect a standing ovation to this post but this is exactly I feel in 500 words.
Edit: Now I officially Know that karma can go into negative, but I would like that people who down vote may just give me a reason as to why they did it
If thats so then I am fine with my negative karma and "attitude". I really hoped this community to be above such trivial matters or at least try to look at it from a different view point. But NO, even you are too busy with your "style",you dont care to look about anyone who does not think like you. Then I am again compelled to comprehend that this is another mob, which has no right to say they are different from others. But I am going to stay here, just because I care about the content this mob develops not the "atmosphere". I am gonna be happy with a negative karma point here. Because I believe in whatever I say and whatever I feel is right. And there is not a thing you can do to shut me up to stop me saying that.
For what it's worth, I suspect people would appreciate it if we would permit this pointless meta-meta-discussion to die.
Also to you this may be a pointless meta-meta-discussion but I take it upon myself to reply to people who have something to say about my views.
Anyway, here's the thing about "relaying ideas". Nobody will be able to receive them if your message is garbled by incorrect spelling or style. Your idea might be good, but if nobody can understand it, nobody will ever know about it.
Stick to standard English and you should be fine. If you want to do something like not use words with "e" in them, that is also fine. But spelling "you" as "u" just makes you look illiterate, and ideas from illiterates are usually not well-received.
Also if you look at my all posts I personally use the full form and correct spellings (thanks spell checks) of words. My movement was not just limited to the use of incorrect spellings but also HN not excepting any idea other than their own. It makes it look like fashion where the real review are done by only people in Milan or New York, for the rest these reviews are just copied and translated.
OK, whatever.
I find it quite fascinating that using "u" in place of "you" in this short, quick and simple to the point comment would cause such an issue to the HN conscientia.
If indeed you are calling out the style police on this and/or me then I feel it only fair for that i summon the snob police in return ;-)
PG wept!
yours Barry