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I suspect recent Russian behaviour might make NATO membership a lot more popular all of a sudden.

Russian behaviour such as ... ? There have been plenty of allegations, that's true - but zero proof. It's sad how western media have completely failed to ask for any proof and have just been blowing NATO's political horn.

There's no proof that Russia forcibly annexed Ukraine? What newspaper have you been reading?

What can you possibly mean? Russian troops and tanks entered the Ukraine by the thousands. Even after the 'withdrawal' some remain. What were they doing there, picking flowers?

You guys make me laugh. Such ridiculous statements that display complete ignorance for the situation in the Ukraine (which has not been annexed, perhaps you mean Crimea, which voted to become independent from Ukraine) speak for themselves, nothing more to add. It's sad that some of these people can downvote based on their "knowledge".

Upvoted. Ministry of Truth is doing its job very well (on the other part of the world).

I'm not sure if you've heard about a recent "civil war" between ukraine and russian "separatists"....

> russian "separatists"....

They are called "pro-russian separatists".

They also seem to be pretty russian themselves.

They annexed this place called Crimea a little while back, you may have read about it in the papers. And a little while before that they went an invaded a country called Georgia. I honestly can't think of what more you could ask in terms of proof.

Crimeans voted to join Russia though. And the fact that all of this is so controversial is proof of massive reality-distortions by the media.

> It's sad how western media have completely failed to ask for any proof and have just been blowing NATO's political horn.

NATO / "The West" uses its own mainstream media to further its own agenda. Russia uses theirs to further theirs.

The ordinary people on both sides are just bombarded with propaganda.

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