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This is a play on Darius Kazemi's Amazon Random Shopper: http://randomshopper.tumblr.com/post/35454415921/randomized-...

http://xkcd.com/576/ I think was first.

That was purely theoretical though, Randall(sp?) never actually implemented or ran it did he?

Ooh, great point. I had forgotten about that, but the Wayback Machine has that starting in April 20, 2009.

PDAS - (Plausible Deniability As a Service) ?

I was wondering whether they took any special precautions before starting this. Might have made for an interesting talk at the local police precinct.

If you look at their gallery exhibition page ( http://www.kunsthallesanktgallen.ch/en/exhibitions/current.h... ) you'll find this sentence:

We also thank Dr. iur. Bruno Glaus for the help in legal matters.

A quick search reveals that he is lawyer, so I think it's safe to say they've certainly thought of the legal side of things first.

Isn't the statistical probability of ordering a non-drug item fairly low? This does not appear to be random. But it's still great art :)

Has anyone ever actually done a survey of what's available on these markets. I don't doubt there are a lot of drug offerings but I feel like most of the "It's all drugs!" assertions come authority figures who tend to say that about a lot of new things.

A recent article by CoinDesk [0] quotes the total number of listings on each of the biggest dark markets (before the seizures) and the number of listings for drugs; drugs made up a large majority of listings on all markets except Evolution, about half of whose listings are for drugs.

(The numbers come from a report [1] by the Digital Citizens Alliance; the report says the count is from January 2014, but says nothing further about methodology.)

The markets that sell weapons have significantly lower proportions of drug listings, so presumably many of the non-drug listings on those markets are for weapons; much of the rest is likely exploits, credit card numbers, forgeries, etc.

0. http://www.coindesk.com/dark-markets-grow-bigger-bolder-year...

1. https://media.gractions.com/314A5A5A9ABBBBC5E3BD824CF47C46EF... [PDF]

I wouldn't cite Coindesk for any reliable report. [1]

1. https://ihb.io/2014-11-09/news/official-coindesk-longer-voic...

I'd be surprised to see any evidence suggesting anything other than "It's mostly, but not all drugs".

there are TONS of things like memberships to spotify, bangbros, etc. Probably more digital goods and marijuana than anything.

I assume this is carded?

With digital goods it's probably easier to illegally copy them from victim's machine after they've been (legitimately) purchased, so they are more likely obtained via password grabbers.

I imagine stealing paysites' credentials is a sort of a bike theft of the criminal web - low profit, low risk.

I never figured it out. It is tempting, but nothing I would ever risk myself. There are also a ton of new scams such as "buy this MacBook pro for full price, cancel the order then send me $300 in bitcoin and I'll send it to you" (I know I butchered that process)

The thing is my question would be how stupid it would have to be for things like spotify -- which, being streaming media, is shitty to run across a VPN, and if you were using carded goods on your home computer, traceable back to you easily, when the dispute for unauthorized use hits..

You're funny

At least here in Norway some thinks the government shall prosecute people based solely on the fact that they received a letter containing a forbidden substance. The idea appears to be that one would only spend money ordering a forbidden item to oneself (a false logic if you ask me. I have received gift in the mail several times. From Amazon, not drugs through).

If the government start to prosecute based on receiving only, one interesting counter measure would be to create a random darknet shopper that also send the product to a random addresses, thus offering plausible deniability to everyone receiving illicit substances by mail.

Heh this reads like the contents of Hunter S Thompson's gym bag for a long weekend. Of course he would need two sets of a fireman's master key-chain.

This is really interesting though. Maybe after a while they could exclude drugs. I find the most interesting thing about these darknets to be the random and obscure stuff people are selling. Like from the second fireman's key-chain console, where it lists among other things for sale, a "TOP VPN LIST that don't keep logs," an "nba playoff pick," a "BANK DROP ONLY 20% FEE," and a "Request Custom Hotel Booking."

Kind of a dick moving, posting detailed pictures and descriptions of that seller's "stealth" packaging...

Not really. This is public information.

http://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/2lwhzs/steal...

This is going to get them placed on all of the watchlists.

Why is someone selling ebooks on a dark market? Surely there's more straightforward ways to get it if you're going down the illegal route anyway.

Convenience and safety. Someone can pay $0.99 and avoid the trouble of tracking down all of the pdfs themselves as well as avoiding accessing a bunch of other sites.

Not sure how much I trust downloading files from the same area of the internet that sells drugs and has people offering to kill others for money.

Then maybe you should conciser purchasing a legitimately licensed copy of the ebook set

That's what the reviews are for I imagine

This brought a smile to my face. Dope sneakers tho!

please excuse my ridiculously naive and simple question: but are they real from some sort of black market or just a really good "fake?"

It's listed in the Counterfeits category (a real Nike Air Yeezy 2 Platinum sells for $2,000). It's a good fake though.

It's a photo from the shop's site. Probably lifted from Nike. The actual product could be way worse.

There's a link in the listing to a RAR that contains actual photos.

It would be really cool if they posted the site photos and also photos of the actual product.

EDIT: also, got the drugs tested and posted those results.

and is that considered illegal or just a trademark infringement (not to say that isnt also illegal)

Do those shoes glow in the dark? Other than that, I don't get it. You can have a random shopper in your life just by getting married (goes for either sex; also, I wouldn't want to discriminate against other forms of relationships).

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