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Comment by ssimpson | Hacker News Reader

Pretty good read from a woman's perspective. I don't know why I find M/Cs fascinating.

Do the relationships described in that story not seem deeply unhealthy to you? From my (male) perspective the women seem to get treated like property.

Finding something fascinating and finding something deeply disturbing are not orthogonal; the relationships seemed deeply unhealthy, the men inherently violent and the women second class (don't disturb to club members while they're talking)—and still it was very interesting, very well told.

... And yet, any geek gets irritated if interrupted while deep in code, or even a game.

By anyone, not just by a woman? The misogyny was being pointed out I believe.

There's nothing the the article that says that is gender specific - a male non-member would have been equally unwelcome.

It's actually considered rude for any non patch-holder to approach two patch-holders having a private discussion. Gender isn't important in this instance. I'm not saying there isn't a ton of misogyny in the MC lifestyle. There really is.

"Any"? Including family? Doesn't your wife or girlfriend constitute a very special category? If not, then then are indeed messed up.

I don't make my girlfriend, the woman who I love, ask permission to talk to me when I'm chatting to a friend (or coding), with the explicit or implied threat of violence.

Very, very different. And incredibly disrespectful.

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