The Fire Phone Is Officially a Failure
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Does this mean that Amazon are out of the smartphone business because of one failure? Not necessarily. Amazon have the money, the power and means to release something spectacular, but they will need to learn from their mistakes as well as their competitors and go back to the drawing board. I honestly would not be surprised if they already have a new phone in the works already.
One area Amazon could beat their competitors on is price Even though you can already buy a whole bunch of affordable Android phones, they usually come with horrible hardware and are made of the cheapest materials possible. If they can release a phone with a decent camera, proper unrestricted Android OS, plenty of RAM, removable battery, great GPU/CPU and get the cost low enough that it wipes the floor with Google's offerings and price point, we would have a viable fight on our hands.
Lab126 failed to deliver. This is why I respect Samsung, even though I am not fond of their practices. Samsung moves extremely fast and extremely shamelessly. Speed matters a lot, and they've proven it time and time again.
If Amazon followed iterative approach to fine tune rather than one shot with super delay then it would have been a different story.
I mean, let's be real here, it's an extremely restricted platform that cuts you off from tons and I mean tons of great content on app stores we already have, content we're already familiar with.
And then it provides you with sub-par hardware at that price level and nothing more than gimmicks.
And one of the big reasons for all of this? To push a feature allowing people to point their phone at something and buy it on Amazon. Surprise, that's a software-based feature you could build for just about any phone.
The question "what does this phone do that others cannot" really was never answered with the Fire. (Other than that gimmicky perspective view thing)
Today if you launch something new you need to be able to compete with the value in the iOS and Android ecosystems to draw people and that's a VERY big hurdle. Microsoft is trying their hardest but can't get it done.
There is no surprise here. Amazon's software ability and follow through is best describe as "exists" and the third party ecosystem is tiny. I'd rather have any $200 Android phone (even a low quality one) than a free Fire Phone and I like Amazon.
"Here's a phone, it has no popular apps, and they'll probably never be available!" Yeah. Same thing that killed the Pre. Same thing that's killing Windows Mobile.
I have a Kindle Fire HDX 8.9' tablet, the hardware is top notch and there are plenty of apps. From what I know, if an Android app doesn't heavily rely on Google proprietary APIs, like Maps, it's trivial to put it on the Amazon store.
But yeah, the phone needed to be 2-3 times cheaper to sell well.
Call me when they can figure out that $.99 == $.99 100% of the time. [Hint: At least once every few months, this isn't true for at least one of their back end services and I have to clean up after it. This is just one issue of many they have, including the fact their "primary key" for items (ASINs) can be duplicated across multiple products.]
I think many, many people overestimate Amazon's technical capability.
They are competent but they are not special.
Hell, they can take up to 8 days to ship something from a warehouse sometimes.
I'm just saying that it's still too soon to say that nothing significantly better than iPhone and its apps, or cheaper than Android and its apps, will ever be possible from a third platform.
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That's an interesting comment. Isn't "phone" a software based feature you could build for just about any computer? I wonder if a fully featured general purpose mobile computer and ubiquitous wifi could make smartphones a thing of the past...
Sure it's limited in some of its tasks due to the display size and the efficiency of user input for things like text editing (e.g. writing a marketing plan, programming) etc.
The fact that it's also a phone I think is the least defining feature nowadays. I personally for example would rather do away with my ability to make and receive calls, than my ability to use internet (excluding Voip) for all the other applications on my phone. If you then consider that telephony is shifting towards being an internet-based service, and as you say the phone is just a software based feature, then yes I think we're getting to a place where calling these things 'smartphones' is as silly as continuing to call a computer/laptop a 'smart calculator' or 'smart typewriter' after 1990 or whatever.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7912878
FTA: "When it launched a few months ago, it was $199"
$199 with the essentially non-optional AT&T plan. $649 regular price, which they would let you buy it at even though the phone was locked to AT&T no matter how you bought it. Into a market where the Nexus 5 already existed at $350 (fully unlocked) and Motorola had even cheaper options for very functional full-Android phones.
Months later and I'm still kind of bemusedly surprised the Fire Phone launched at the price that it did because prior to launch I was nearly certain that a surprisingly low price relative to the hardware would be the killer feature, given Amazon's history and the fact that the phone was designed from the ground up to herd you into Amazon's content ecosystem (and I say that as a happy and high volume customer of Amazon Prime/Instant/Kindle).
Months later and I'm still kind of bemusedly surprised the Fire Phone launched at the price that it did because prior to launch I was nearly certain that a surprisingly low price relative to the hardware would be the killer feature, given Amazon's history and the fact that the phone was designed from the ground up to herd you into Amazon's content ecosystem
100% agreed -- they've even said that their stated goal with the Kindle Fire was to bring quality tech at affordable prices; why they thought they could get away with a subprime phone at a prime price is beyond me.I don't think it has anything to do with the restrictiveness, just that it was not very compelling and had 2 weird gimmicks no one really had a use for. That combined with the low visibility of Amazon as a phone manufacturer, I can really understand people held off buying.
Microsoft is having enough problems convincing people that a 3rd place app store is worth developing for, how was Amazon supposed to get in?
I like how Blackberry is considered 'effectively dead'; I've felt the same way since they failed to react to the iPhone.
The iPhone has a VERY LARGE ecosystem of software and hardware to support it. There is a lot of value there.
But the Fire Phone didn't have that. It ran a version of Android so they could have had a lot of stuff but instead they chose to prevent that. In the end it cost as much as their competitors but had no software and it's only unique features were somewhat gimmicky.
This highlights Amazons commitment to their customers. This is why Amazon will be #1 in the customer loyalty game in the long run. NO other company would keep this many bad reviews on their OWN product page.
V2.0 will be sooo much stronger because of this. Tough lesson to learn but invaluable internal motivation & feedback for the team.
Now if v2.0 isn't on AT&T, I will try it ....
Instead of making a better phone for consumers, they focused on making a better phone for Amazon. And, it turns out, "Makes Amazon richer", is on nobodies feature wish list for their next phone. Obviously, most folks probably don't mind Amazon making money...but, why would anyone buy a phone for which the only major differentiation is that it sends most of the long term app revenue to Amazon, and by doing so, limits the user to far fewer apps and less freedom to do with the phone what you want?
I'm almost amused at the gall of Amazon thinking they had the marketing and product chops to pull off an Apple-scale consumer-fleecing like this.
Most of the tech press and community had a feeling that it was a bad idea that was unlikely to ever go anywhere, and it's hard to believe that the entire company was unaware of this and of the market facts behind it.
I personally wouldn't ever buy one, much like I'd never get a Facebook phone, but it could be that there's people out there who might.
If the Kindle Fire tablets had all cost the same price as an iPad, I seriously doubt they would be enjoying the popularity that they have today. It would appear that the thought process leading to the existence of that Fire Phone was that the Kindle Fire's success has less to do with price and more to do with Amazon.com ecosystem integration!