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I have exactly this frustration as a person coming from static languages (mostly C++) to web dev. Anybody can recommend something more comfortable? I like the concept of Vaadin, but I'd prefer something non-Java.

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I'm personally very happy with golang. We are a python shop with some bit of Java on the backend and we decided to try golang to get past a few python performance hurdles. So I wrote a smallish API/data importer as a first application. The results have been fantastic. Nearly as productive as python, better in my opinion support for a functional paradigm, much faster, and of course really easy and great concurrency support. Sure python and django have a good bit more tooling and third party libs but go is gaining ground. One major hurtle I faced was the lack of a good visual debugging IDE. I'm using the go plugin for Intellij but it's not really that good. If go keeps gaining popularity and Intellij releases first class support, like they have with python ruby and node, it will really help the language ecosystem.

Scala is a wonderful language for web dev, particularly if you've found a JVM library you like (the interop is very good). The conciseness and readability (if you stick to the right libraries) of Python with the safety and IDE support of Java. (Can't speak to Vaadin, I'm a big Wicket fan myself)

Try Go. It is a lot like C and compiles to concurrent machine code. It is also very easy to learn and use.

Er, you mean to say "compiles to machine code." There is no such thing as concurrent machine code... Now the Go language has some fantastic data structures baked-into the syntax that provide a language with which to construct concurrent programs.

Go has some potential (I'm still waiting for Gen/censored/ics :)). Also, I'm particularly interested in components based web frameworks, and there seems to be none so far - last time I found GWT like library for Go, but it is undeveloped/dead I think.

If you're coming from mostly static languages, then this is a good choice for web dev: https://golang.org/doc/articles/wiki/

ASP.NET maybe? C# is one of the best-designed languages suitable to server-side dev in modern popular use. Using it with VS is the most convenient and efficient IDE experience I've encountered.

I actually enjoyed WebForms ~10 years ago. But for personal SaaS projects, free/cheap hosting space seems somewhat unrepresented. And I really don't want to go Mono-way...

As for ASP.NET itself - nowadays it seems ASP.NET MVC is recommended, but I find it way too bloat.

Dart has great autocomplete.

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