Product Hunt Gets Social with Twitter-Like Profiles, Following, Notifications
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And the self-promotion and upvote begging on Product Hunt is getting even worse (https://twitter.com/search?f=realtime&q=product%20hunt%20upv...) despite promises for improvement.
See previous rant: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8427079
I recently listened to Ryan from Product Hunt on This Week in Startups, and while I can't remember him addressing this, I do remember getting the impression they have a lot to build and just now are building a team. This could just be one of those things where they didn't want to open the floodgates too soon as they refine the product and scale in traffic. Or it's inherent to the model they're going after..
That being said, when I try to put myself in their shoes, I come up with one possible theory. It is that it is working right now with restricted access and their is a fear that if they open up commenting to everyone, it will hurt the overall product. I disagree but I don't think it has to necessarily be 'elitist' to still result in the current situation.
I actually think the discussion is my main weak point of PH. I tend to just quickly browse the links and then move on. Reading conversations of people I do not know and cannot participate in quickly gets boring for me. I think when the commenting becomes open to me, I will see the time I spend per day on PH increase significantly (most likely at the expense of HN :p )
(Why am I repulsed by PH? Not sure, but I tend to lump it in with the whole cargo cult, ping pong tables, beers kegs, fashion and gossip and startups Valley scene. The most common context in which I encounter it is people asking me to vote them up so they can get 'discovered', as if entrepreneurship were Hollywood or Nashville. It's a meta-startup for discussing other people's startups; it's a carbuncle on a vain, self-absorbed slice of our industry. I guess it serves a niche well and I'm just repelled by the niche.)
* Requiring a tagline (huge time-saver, s/n!)
* Curation (via the crowd but also via well known product people, s/n!)
* Highlighting Makers (great game dynamic & good for s/n)
* Profiles (& following. It is a community)
* Embracing Twitter (great way to bootstrap & improved social signal, s/n!)
Of course seeding the community and growing it was important but when you build a system these decisions make or break the whole thing.
It also makes me wonder why similar services like HN and Reddit didn't go into that direction/depth sooner.
Product Hunt basically captures the buzz of Silicon Valley. It does so very, very well. That's fine. I mean it's like the celebrity A list in a sense. We like looking at these things. However, let's just keep this in perspective here. It is strongly bias curation.
Whether that was something they got "right" remains to be seen. We'll see if that scales (I think the big question people have right now).
The other thing that most people seem to dislike about Product Hunt is the exclusivity, which doesn't bother that much. It is an interesting strategy to combat the quality of a site decaying and I curious as to how it turns out.
The top submissions of the past few days are pretty cool, but being able to see the most highly upvoted submissions of all time would be an amazing first-time user experience.
Plus, if I go on vacation, I can just quickly see the best of what I missed last week.