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Doubt you're going to see much about crashing since I presume that most MBP owners, like myself, never experience crashes.

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Mine crashes a lot. Usually after I send it to sleep when I go home. Next time when I wake it up, it starts up from crashed state. It might have something to do with some app I installed but I didn't spend time to figure that out yet.

You're not alone in this exact behavior.

Don't blame the app, blame the OS, the OS is suppose to insulate the app, it's not MSDOS, unless of course it runs as root then all bets are off.

VMWare installs kernel extentions. I'm pretty sure you can blame an app that deliberately messes with the OS internals.

I went through a few of these. At least once the GPU burned up when it failed to go to sleep after disconnecting from my thunderbolt display and putting in my laptop bag for 18h.

I think I went through two MBPr 15" machines before I got one that didn't have the problem. I still think it's possible some software I had was triggering it initially, but once it happened a few times, even a clean install with nothing on it could trigger it. Was very frustrating.

VMWare 6 seems to be the cause of some of mine. I resolved it by making sure it's suspended prior to system sleep.

I wonder if the most recent VMWare version would help.

It helped a little but still crashes for me. I have the same issues with VMWare latest version.

Does suspending the VM help you?

I have to quit VMWare Fusion or run the risk of spontaneous reboots while it's asleep.

It does. No crashes if VM is not running.

Sorry to reply to my own message, but I just found this [1] where the recommendation is:

"I managed to fix this by going to the Virtual Machine Settings, clicking Advanced, and then checking the "Pass power status to VM" checkbox."

Haven't tested extensively, but I haven't had a crash in the past day.

[1] https://communities.vmware.com/thread/467919

Thanks! I will try this and let you know.

Interesting you got yours to work (VMWare 6) - mine's never worked since I upgraded to 6. $50 upgrade down the drain, no workable support, no one can reproduce it or track down an issue from my logs. :(

I have that on one of my machines but not the other. This is the only situation I remember either of them crashing in, though.

I had the exact same problem on an iMac. I've noticed, that it happened, when I've left my Wacom Cintiq "on" overnight, while designating it as a second monitor.

I've had this problem with Mavericks on a 2010 MBP. I "fixed" it by switching the hibernation mode sleep (hibernatemode 0), suspend-to-disk and suspend-to-ram would kernel panic every time.

I already mentioned it elsewhere, but I wonder if both parent and gp have a case of bad RAM.

Lucky you. I've owned two, they both crashed, far more often than a top-tier OS should. It usually happened when playing video, and it was usually the GPU. That said, my Air has not crashed once since I purchased it last December.

Varies heavily on generation. Some are inherently faulty. E.g. lots of late 2008 mbp had got bad gpus, I had motherboard replaced for mine for free.

> since I presume that most MBP owners, like myself, never experience crashes.

Stop presuming, get facts. OSX Mavericks is known for its crashing problems.

Example: http://venturebeat.com/2013/10/25/apples-new-os-x-mavericks-...

I have an early 2011 15" MBP with an SSD and a regular hard drive in the optical bay with maxed out RAM. I have had maybe one crash in the past year.

The only issue I have is with the trackpad going out from time to time but a quick reboot fixes the problem.

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