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Eskimo – Node Boilerplate Framework for Rapid MVPs

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I do give some props for productivity and sharing a solution with the community (rather than just bitching about other peoples' solutions).

This looks pretty well-put-together to get a project started quickly, though my personal preferences might have been sass/foundation. To me those are small nitpicks in the scheme of things, and you're never going to be able to please everyone with your choices for defaults :D

The checkmark tables get under my skin a bit since they're mostly a specific set of dependencies (which of course your framework 'aces') rather than a comparison of actual features (in fairness, asset pipeline/DI I'd consider features).

Anyway, this is neat and looks worth some exposure. Keep on hacking!

I've iterated twice on these kinds of projects. First was Drywall and the latest is Frame. Drywall includes a front-end and Frame is just an API. Finding a happy medium of features is tricky. Some choices limit your audience quite a bit.

Drywall [https://github.com/jedireza/drywall] Drywall is limited to people who're ok using Grunt instead of Gulp or Backbone instead of _______, etc...

Frame [https://github.com/jedireza/frame] I created Frame to appeal to a larger audience. And because all the front-end opinions were removed it plays nicer since you "bring your own front-end". Interestingly enough, now I'd like to provide Postgres as well as Mongo db connections.

In general these projects are interesting and I think serve best as examples of apps beyond the absolute basics. Once you make an app yours, it'll probably go in it's own direction quickly.

That title looks like something you'd see in a HN parody.

Serious question though: why "Rapid MVP" instead of just "MVP"? I thought the whole point of an MVP was that it required less time and effort - the rapid seems redundant to me. Am I missing something?

Extra emphasis on speed here. Normal MVP's in the tech scene seem to lack the "rapid" aspect (at least IMO). A majority of MVP's take a ton of time to build (perhaps due to lack of skill). This is about using the fastest tools possible. I've proven this stack through the showcase projects in that post among others built in a weekend like https://getprove.com and https://wakeup.io.

Link: http://eskimo.io

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Does it have sequelize support?

Another cheery day on HN, post a framework debut and people just bitch about some PC nonsense related to the name and other semantics. On a positive note it seems like a good idea and direction to go in, thanks for your work on this, as a Sails user I will be watching developments

In Canada "Eskimo" is often considered an offensive term. The term is widely taken to mean "raw meat eaters" which is understandably offensive, though it may actually have come from "snowshoe-netter" which doesn't seem so bad.

I'm sure the project maintainer isn't aware of the controversy, but he or she should consider changing the name. A fledgling library needs all the help it can get with getting hung up on something so unconnected.

The connection is between an Eskimo (builder) and an Igloo (structure). That is the intent here, used as an analogy.

Edit: No further comments on this, other than I don't see people ranting about a Yeoman... The only imagery shared is a pair of snow shoes and an igloo. Thanks for your feedback!

Analogy or not, I'm not sure how appropriate it is. Try substituting the name of your framework with other ethnicities and see how it feels.

Even here in Alaska, where the name isn't considered offensive, I'd hesitate to name a project after a group of people, especially when the term's acceptability varies.

Anyone can build an igloo.

Would you call it an Indian (builder) and a Tipi (structure)?

The author is not applying the term towards a group of people.

The author is applying the term as a name of his project.

I'm sure whatever name he picks, someone somewhere will take the opportunity to either play the offended-victim card, or the white-knight-that-will-save-that-victim card.

Personally, I'm not offended and I hope he keeps the name.

I can confirm this. In Denmark, which has a large population from Greenland, it's an slightly offensive term too.

FYI, as the Wikipedia article linked on the site states, in some place (e.g. Canada), the term "Eskimo" is considered politically incorrect (along the same lines as "Indian" as a term for native Canadians or Americans).

FYI, a considerable amount of "Native Americans" prefer to be called "Indians".

Thanks, I did not know that!

Why the hell would you choose LESS when it's so much worse than both SASS and Stylus.

Because this is about speed. LESS comes native with Bootstrap out of the box and using it with Bower, FontAwesome, Gulp, and other tools is so easy and quick. The asset pipeline is so nice here I think (still can be improved though with `gulp-jade-usemin`).

It's really a matter of opinion.I personally hate the Stylus/Jade combo.

LESS looks like CSS,designers/integrators know it or it's easy for them to learn.Same thing for template engines that abstract html too much.There's no need to do that.

As for SASS,node-sass isnt in sync with the latest SASS version and you cant run it in a browser.LESS is good enough for most use cases.

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