I find it interesting that Ma and the other founders ended up selling so much of Alibaba in the process of creating and building it up. Just Softbank and Yahoo owned something like 80% to 85% of the company. I wonder if Ma regards that as a big early mistake (convenient hindsight), as I'm skeptical whether Softbank or Yahoo had fundamentally much to with Alibaba's success outside of the capital (and specifically that it's a steep amount of equity to have given up for that capital).