Drone-based businesses soar in Canada, as FAA grounds US entrepreneurs
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Also, Resson Aerospace is definitely mentioned in both articles.
Quentin Casey wrote a good article. So did this guy.
Would that shit fly in the US? Needing to apply for a government permit to operate a drone? I know you all are sensitive about perceived 'freedom'. Like how we have gun control, drone permits (and thus restrictions), etc...
Are you talking about commercial flying? I certainly do not think I should need to apply for a government permit to fly a 15 gram quadcopter that could not cause injury or property damage if I tried.
There are going to be a lot of drone-based businesses soon. I got a DJI Phantom 2 last month and have been amazed at the quality of footage that it can capture with a GoPro. The learning curve is much easier than hand-held stabilizers I've used, like the Glidecam.
It is also legal to have sex as a hobby, but not -- in (most of) the U.S., and much of the rest of the world -- if you charge for the services.
Actually, there are a lot of things that are legal to do if you aren't charging for a service, but illegal, or at least much more tightly regulated, if you are charging for a service.
Its actually not. While the limit on commercial application doesn't directly limit scale, there is a very big difference in the overall expected scale when something can only be done for personal enjoyment vs. when it can be both done for that and for commercial purposes.
One can argue that prohibiting commercial use isn't the most desirable way to influence overall scale, but one cannot -- without willful blindness -- argue that banning commercial use has no impact on expected overall scale, even if it does nothing to directly limit either overall scale or the scale of any particular operation.
> I can legally build a dozen quadcopters with 26" propellers and set them flying formations for fun.
Yes, but how many people will vs. how many will when they can do it for fun or profit?
That only serves as an argument for regulating large scale drone operations (commercial or not). It doesn't work as an argument for prohibiting all commercial drone operations regardless of scale.
In broadcasting, amateur radio operators ("hams") are allowed to use the airwaves much more easily than commercial broadcasters.
Perhaps this principle does not translate perfectly to drone operations, but the general goal seems to be to protect both individual liberty and consumers of for-profit service providers.
(Note that contrary to political rhetoric "government regulation hurts business", the viability of the airline industry depends on safety standards: the market has to be larger than "hardcore daredevils" to justify a fleet of 737's.)
Although the "ban commercial use completely" approach is a pretty big hammer to use - as a hobbyist RC pilot who's flown with a camera aboard for some time (http://bigiain.com/Mini-Swift-RC-plane) I've had _many_ requests to take photos/video for other people, many of whom have offered money for it, and almost _all_ of which would require me to make safety compromises that I probably wouldn't choose to make "just doing it for kicks". And the more money on offer, the more tempting it is and the bigger the risks that might get taken.
While _I_ think the risks I take flying that plane in the linked video are reasonable (it weighs ~125g all up, and puts a maximum of about 55W into spinning the prop), I've seen people fly multicopters weighing over 6kg with eight 2000W motors spinning 14inch carbon fiber props in _way_ more public and crowded places than that. I certainly wouldn't choose to do that. And Youtube is full of clips which make me say "Really? You chose to do _that_ _there_? Are you insane?"
I think the "easier learning curve" on things like DJI's gear, coupled with it's accessible price - but _also_ coupled with a bunch of people who either haven't thought through the possible consequences, don't care about the consequences, or who think the money they're making means the risk is worth taking - will inevitably lead to bad decisions being made.
On the more optimistic side, at least _some_ places (here in Australia, for example), it seems like the authorities (CASA in my case) are trying to take account of the differing nature of different "drones", and at least proposing a graduated approach - a sub 500g craft probably isn't going to need to abide by the came rules as a 6kg+ one. (And, if the lower-bound in their current ruleset stays, sub 100g craft will be classified still as "toys" and not covered by these rules.)
And because of that, you're advocating that all commercial drone usage be prohibited? To me, that doesn't follow.
See the first few seconds of this video: http://vimeo.com/99295619
Flying anywhere near aerodromes is illegal just about everywhere.
This is an american photographer/videographer coming to Fiji for a project (work), who then ignores local law by flying his quadcopter over a moving aircraft on a runway.
He finishes his project after a few days, returns to his home country, and puts his video online. If seen by civil aviation authorities in Fiji, it could lead to tighter regulations for local hobbyists and drone businesses.
- Every UAV must be registered with (licensed by) the civil aviation authority
- Cannot operate within six kilometres of an international aerodrome and within three kilometres of a domestic airport
This is simply not true. It might be illegal just about everywhere without permission, but there are countries, where you can get permission to drone shoot legally at or near an airport.
One example is Switzerland: http://tinoscherer.ch/air-14-payerne-mera-drone/ http://tinoscherer.ch/project/air-14-remo-masina-bazl-drone/
You're right about the "potentially" in this case.
It's a great video. Beautifully shot. I love it.
I'm just annoyed that the guy who made it broke the law in doing so.
The video is online, so if it ever comes to the attention of the Fiji Civil Aviation Authority, they could come down hard on local (fijian) UAV operators and hobbyists.
I still feel like safety cages and banning drones are not the solution. Proper training and respecting the tool are much more effective.