There’s Something Rotten in the State of Social Media
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Twitter, Facebook, et al taking away users' rights, pushing crappy updates and changes, while at the same time using creepy advertising tactics to make money and addictive functionality to keep you involved is Twitter, Facebook et al doing exactly what they were designed to do. Their job is to make their shareholders money by exploiting the people who use their service, and they're doing, I'd say, pretty well.
I think Facebook knows full well that nobody likes Facebook Messenger, the newsfeed, the fact their data is never deleted, the obnoxious Zyngames, and so on. They don't care. People will use their service anyway and they'll make money. Twitter knows people probably wouldn't like curated lists, and they'll still do it if they think it'll make them money (just like they know that developers have no choice but to accept their draconian API terms).
I have a lot of objections to social media - on a philosophical basis and a business one - but I don't feel it's reasonable to say it's "dying" or "getting worse." From the perspective of the people running the companies (the only perspective said companies care about), it's doing just fine.
That may be true for you and your social circle, but I think this doesn't represent all people's opinion.
Facebook messenger is the replacement of MSN Messenger and the like for a lot of people, and the fact that it's a seperate app made it so much better: Since everybody is on Facebook, I can easily discuss with all my friends without the burden of opening the classic Facebook app. The FB messenger app is much more fluid than the full sized app.
The newsfeed app is giving more accurate content than ever in my opinion, especially when I mark people I don't care so much about as "Acquaintance" instead of "Friend"
And the primary reason I use facebook is for planning/joining events, and follow news/annoucements from the associations I'm involved in using the facebook Groups.
As for the Zynga games invite, most people who don't play just disable them, last time I saw a stupid game invite was maybe in 2013
I can't speak for Twitter, I don't see how it is useful. To stay in touch with my close friends I use FB messenger and snapchat.
With regards to Facebook Messenger, take a look at its one-star rating on the Apple Store, or the dozens and dozens of blog posts and tech articles complaining about it, or the comments on any of those articles. It's not hard data, but it's pretty clear there's significant negative buzz.
With the newsfeed, I'm just talking about Facebook's general behavior of only showing you a small percentage of what people actually post, not the separate app.
As for the Zynga thing, like you say, "most people just disable them" - what do you think that says about people's preferences for Zynga? To be fair, those games may largely be a fad that has passed, but that doesn't change the fact that for a while they were massively popular and fully exploited by numerous companies.
As for Twitter and how it's useful: You got it in one. :P*
*unless you're a celebrity, a CEO, or a PR person
I agree about your view on Zynga, for the newsfeed I never realized it was showing only a small percentage, although I don't go very often on the newsfeed so if it's only the most important percentage, it's a good thing.
I've been using online chat / messaging (FidoNet then IRC / forums / etc) for 20 years. I don't _want_ online 'Social Networking', it is, in my opinion, toxic in every way.
edit: clarity
I was at a conference recently and someone asked why Second Life didn't go global. And I answered that it was because it wasn't open and federated. They was a bit of bluster but that is the why.
Postal (snail mailing), PSTN (phone-calling), SMS (texting), email (uh, emailing), IRC (chatting?) ... These are all open and federated and have lasted and lasted. No corporation, no matter how massive is ever ever ever going to become 'the social medium' which is what they all want.
Eventually we are going to have open federated online social communication. I thought identi.ca had a chance then I thought Diaspora* was going to do it. Maybe I need to invest in setting up some of these services, maybe all us techies do. Maybe what we need is a movement, we probably already have the tech stacks.
Also, we need single-sign-on, like yesterday :(
Every time these articles come up it's the same ol' same ol'. Actually you know, I'd pay for a Twitter account at this point if only to say, "I trust you, you can keep having my € while I trust you, but as soon as I don't goodbye!"
Is there a true need for it? Everyday people use Facebook and Twitter because it's free, but I highly doubt they'd pay for it. The real "social networks" are text messaging and email as far as most of my non techie friends are concerned.
The difference is, text messaging and email allow you to communicate linguistically with people within your social network in a peer-to-peer (one-to-one) fashion -- whereas a social network platform allows you to define contacts and their relation to you and use a befriend/unfriend, follow/unfollow model where once befriended or followed you automatically get delivered (in theory, unless muted or an algo decides otherwise) broadcast (one-to-many) messages
Did I get it right? I think so? Devil's in the details...
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Interest graph vs. social graph.
For interests I use reddit. Or HN. Facebook is for personal relationships. Showing pics of my kids to my friends and family. I think every new network is basically just a chance to reset your list of friends.
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"Posted yesterday by Natasha Lomas"I despise twitter, but let me take a shot at this.
Twitter offers users an audience. The short messages and the hashtags means that in the ocean of input, there is a relatively high chance your message will be seen. The retweeting and the framework for an actual fanbase means that, with the right procedures, becoming "twitter-famous" is not horrendeously hard (compare to "realworld-famous" which is often a whole career investment).
The existing userbase and popularity of twitter guarantees that it isn't awkward or obscure to say "Follow me on twitter here", which strengthens what the platform offers.
How it became popular in the first place is a bit more obscure. Obviously it has a lot to do with how it limits the user's input and forces everyone to adopt a casual tone; this fits well with people who don't want to put a lot of thought or effort into a single message, and likewise when reading a user's message (Which is understandable. In a time where there are massive, endless amounts of information at your fingertips, you instinctively tend to wander closer to clickbait headlines than to 3 page articles. Most of us here have seen this a lot on Reddit and even HN).
My guess is that twitter will eventually die out when something more concrete will come along; these days all it takes is the right recipe and the right marketing so it's a decent bet that it could come out of Facebook or a similarly popular platform. Hell, it could come out of Twitter itself. In the mean time, what it offers is somewhere for people to rant and shout without feeling like they are not being heard.
Besides, we're not just talking about people having 500k followers. An audience of 5-10k may not seem big on "internet scale", but think about how massive it really is. Picture ten thousand people listening to you talk about the weather for a second. And there are a lot of people who have those followers from just being active in such or such community.
Fixed that for you. To me, rampant gossip, innuendo and Unverified "news" appears to be the draw. Couple that with the opportunity to participate in what is largely an unpoliced environment where this kind of activity is rewarded with "followers" provides people with an out of the box ego fix culminates in a system that exploits those a feedback loops.
OK, that's fine to say. As long as you realize that rampant gossip has been a major driver of human society for centuries, and a favorite pastime of the vast, vast majority of the human race.
Take CNN.
The other day I was watching CNN after the events that went down in Fergurson. For once they sent somebody out of the studio to go look around, but they can't talk to the cops because the cops have PR people that won't let them to talk to the media. They can't talk to ordinary black and white people because they'll say nasty things.
Instead they end up having some geek argue with the dead guy's lawyer about how hard his case is going to be for hours. And then they interrupt to say that they have important news that the third and fourth cousins of somebody famous just died in a car crash.
A week before that there was some woman who looked like Oprah Winfrey who was aghast that a child that was kept in a basement was forced to EXERCISE. She looked like she could do some sit up and push ups herself.
Then before that there was a bounce house accident out in wind gust country in Colorado so they have to go on Youtube and find all the Youtube videos about bounce houses blowing away.
Then they wonder why nobody watches CNN.
Yeah, that'd be too much like actual journalism. :(
I guess all "free" services that have investment from purely profit orientated VC's/Angels are bound to turn to shit eventually. But maybe now the service exists and is part of everyone's day to day world, a useful paid for social network could pop up that reaches critical mass. I'd gladly pay a small monthly fee for a non-creepy, no advertising, no privacy invasion Facebook... If all my friends got on board too of course ;)
The new trend is to use social networking models to discover 'influencers' in social groups and use those people's reputations to recommend products to other people. Take for example object (a) versus (b) on page nine of the following paper: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1206.4327v1.pdf
Lindex 'Enterprise SEO Software' has this to say: "Our latest innovation Linkdex Networks enables you to visualise and analyse these groups of relevant influencers. The objective is to enable digital marketers to gradually identify the right personalities and build relationships with them, spreading along those networks for maximum exposure.
If someone within your network has lots of relationships pointing to them you know that they are perceived as trustworthy sources. The aim is to find influencers who are passionate on a niche topic, have strong relationships with the group and are receptive to new ideas with plenty of reach." [1]
It's on fire everywhere in marketing and advertising and there are lots of variations being tried and tested at the moment, and also publicly funded research at universities [2]. Marketers will drop prices online when they detect influencers, in an attempt to encourage them to speak highly of their product to their friends and family (who will need to buy at full price). The Marketing Science Institute has a whole section dedicated to social networks and influencing them [3][4].
Just searching for the term "social contagion advertising" or "advertising influencers" reveals media research arms with nifty tables that map out ways of influencing social groups by targeting information strategically at certain members. For example you can get people to change their view of the "legitimacy of an item" by "encourag[ing] influential targets to adopt the item" or create the idea of a "status disadvantage of not adopting" by "Emphasiz[ing] activities of close connections in a social network to influence behavior". [5]
Perhaps a side note, but the DoD "MINERVA initiative" [6] studies social contagion strategies to track, create or lessen political instability in other countries (although the initiative studies a lot of other things too). The USAID Cuban Twitter project sought to (and nearly succeeded in) creating mass unrest by appearing to be a grassroots movement in Cuba to overthrow the government. You can bet that other countries have these capabilities, or analogues to them, as well (Snowden documents and leaked HB Gary memos show that both the NSA and GCHQ engage in astroturfing and social media manipulation) [7][8][9]. The giant meta-data graph created by the NSA is also particularly valuable for 'influencer' and 'social contagion' analysis.
These sorts of forces are abound on social media websites, as can be seen in the recent Wired article "I liked everything I saw on Facebook for two days" [10]. What's more, the role that social media has begun to play in political races is incredible. If you have the time and interest, look up the capabilities of incumbent Obama's "The Cave" for social media evangelism and tracking. Real time social estimates of support across dozens of major social media platforms with the ability to influence and target any of them at will. Interns scrambling to be "first to post" on online discussions in news media articles.
To be a member of online social media is to be surveilled by both governments and by corporations, to have your content curated for financial purposes, and to have your information sold to the highest bidder. It is also to be influenced not just by direct advertisement, but also indirectly through information that gets carried word of mouth. On the internet nobody knows that you are a dog. This is often an inconvenience and it allows trolls and other unsavory social behavior. Unfortunately it is now also true that on social media, those with the right perspective - those that can see social media at the thousand foot view - not only know that you are a dog, but also know how to make you drool when they ring a bell.
[1] http://www.linkdex.com/blog/social-contagion-why-ideas-and-p...
[2] http://icos.umich.edu/sites/icos6.cms.si.umich.edu/files/lec...
[3] http://www.msi.org/reports/distinguishing-among-mechanisms-o...
[4] http://www.msi.org/articles/what-drives-social-contagion-in-...
[5] http://socialmediaandmobileresearch.com/2014/03/10/social-co...
[7] https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipula...
[8] http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/jun...
[9] http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/16/945768/-UPDATED-The...
[10] http://www.wired.com/2014/08/i-liked-everything-i-saw-on-fac...
The fact that we did not predict this or see this coming is because we are blind to the hidden forces at play in society and furthermore lack the imagination to see how each of us will be used as a means to an end rather than an end in ourselves.
From what you're saying Social Media has very little upside and a whole raft of bad juju.
If rhetoric is the art of influencing people with language and communication then in the 21st century our cyber-rhetoric would cause the Greeks and Romans of old to bow down before us.
This will only get a hell of a lot worse before it gets better. Yes, that's my own personal subjective viewpoint and a highly normative claim but, you know what, that's not the world I want to be living in.
In software security, we see the publication of both defensive and offensive research. Where are the defensive researchers for brain security? Currently, social media companies own the proprietary datasets of their customers' behavior. If this was available to each customer, they could voluntarily provide their data to researchers who represented their social values. This would enable diverse research into defensive filters. The originating company can still have an aggregate copy, but it would be non-exclusive.
Algorithmic disarmament is unlikely. We need open-source, defensive algorithms for media consumption. A baby step would be to post social media on your own site, then syndicate to social media companies, see http://indiewebcamp.com/Bridgy
Is there any alternative that could handle a mass exodus within a few quarters? Twister (http://twister.net.co/), Sublevel (http://sublevel.net/explore/), federated HN clones, ...?
1. http://blog.app.net/2014/05/06/app-net-state-of-the-union/
You can see the difference by looking at Facebook. They are also instituting lots of supposedly "user-unfriendly" policies, and yet their stock price keeps going up, as do their user numbers and revenue.
It's a long shot, but Wikipedia replaced Britannica. Perhaps, there's hope.
Flipboard UX would enable users to have the best of both algorithmic and human/social curation.
I use Twitter as an news/interest stream and leave it open 24/7 on my desktop. In contrast, Flipboard is literally shovelware for me (I can't remove it from my Galaxy S4).
"Twitter’s timeline is organized in reverse chronological order… but this “isn’t the most relevant experience for a user,” Noto said. Timely tweets can get buried at the bottom of the feed if the user doesn’t have the app open, for example. “Putting that content in front of the person at that moment in time is a way to organize that content better.”
Every day there's a new fad for the kids and they flood their entire friendlist with invites - and you can't unfriend them e.g. because they're family or work colleagues.
https://developers.facebook.com/docs/apps/upgrading#upgradin...
Also, removing the ability for apps to see friend data basically makes 3rd-party FB clients all but impossible.