Ophal – A Lua web platform | Hacker News Reader

Ophal – A Lua web platform

ophal.org

58 pointsRed_Tarsius18 comments

Funny it sounds like Opa (opalang.org).

That said, there is already openresty http://openresty.org which is an incredibly well-managed project, plus Lapis which also seems right in many aspects http://leafo.net/lapis/

I'm not judging, but the license of openresty and lapis also is more usable for many (vs. GPL v3).

Thank you for the info!

I just noticed that the developer of lapis also made the itch.io marketplace. As a matter of fact, itch.io was built with lapis.

Indeed :) It's got great performance, glad I chose Lapis to build it. Handling millions of requests and tens of of thousands of payments on a 10 dollar VPS.

Openresty transformed my thinking about the ability to scale something around a web service. I've built some really high scale and low latency (10ms) systems using openresty compiled with LuaJIT that beat out solutions written in pure C/C++/Java and Python.

tl;dr of the "The birth of Ophal project" page[1]:

The author was doing PHP work for many years, fell in love with Lua, and decided to port PHP to Lua.

But it's quite difficult to fully verify this, as I can't find a single code example anywhere on this site.

[1] http://ophal.org/blog/birth-ophal-project

From the link you shared: > It is not married with a particular technology

Except that from what I can tell jQuery is bundled by default...

Yesterday I came across this and was surprised that such great development environments and ecosystems exist for a languages which such a small hype.

I know, hype and good tools are not necessarily related, but I still find those tools really amazing and still it stays under most people's radar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPYvJxFxMkM

This point "Mostly written in JavaScript" in the sidebar is confusing. If Lua is the superior language people are going from JS here, why advertise that its written in JS? Also why write in JS?

That's taken from here [1] and probably wrong.

1: https://www.openhub.net/p/ophal/factoids

Ooops, I didn't know that was being used. Damn AI!

That seems to be a widget from OpenHub, which probably has an algorithm (like Github) that analyzes the codebase looking for dominant language.

And presumably it found jQuery in there (like Github often does).

I know it's probably supposed to be pronounced like "Opal" with a slightly aspirated 'p' but I keep wanting to pronounce it "offal" or even "awful" instead. As silly as that is, it might actually put some people off trying the code.

But "Awful" could be the new good. I personally would be very tempted to use something called Aweful.

"awful" did originally mean "awe-inspiring", but its meaning has drifted away from that quite dramatically over time.

I looked it up because I found your remark interesting:

> awful (adj.)

> c.1300, agheful "worthy of respect or fear," from aghe, an earlier form of awe (n.), + -ful. Replaced Old English egefull. Weakened sense "very bad" is from 1809; weakened sense of "exceedingly" is by 1818.

Turns out the word that actually changed meaning is “awe”:

> awe (n.)

> c.1300, earlier aghe, c.1200, from a Scandinavian source, such as Old Norse agi "fright;" from Proto-Germanic ^agiz- (cognates: Old English ege "fear," Old High German agiso "fright, terror," Gothic agis "fear, anguish")[…]

http://etymonline.com/index.php?term=awful

http://etymonline.com/index.php?term=awe

Perhaps the name is intentional. After all, this is intended to be the guts of a website...

There is already an awful in lua.

http://awesome.naquadah.org/doc/api/

Reply on news.ycombinator.com