It does have a somewhat anti-privacy feature in that if I understand it correctly, it keeps a record of messages between participants (in the sense of a record existing that a message was exchanged although not the content), but that level of data is already accessible to NSA/GCHQ anyway.
Google can never never be trusted again. They publicly lied about PRISM, and they got caught. These people have no business making security protocols for us.
Google is a front for US intelligence. We should give no quarter. Shun them.
Picking on Project Loon... come on, is there anything Google could do that you wouldn't immediately label as evil forefront of US intelligence?
Here is more on loon and look further up for links to the PRISM slides and documentation showing the companies involved including google were compensated financially by the NSA. The evidence is damning.
http://m.slashdot.org/story/194413
Look the bottom line here is these guys betrayed us. They are traitors, and we need to cut them out of our future.
From the linked Slashdot article - Google patented Loon-related technology, describing it "as just the ticket for those well-to-do enough to pay a tiered-pricing premium to get faster internet access while attending concerts, conferences, air shows, music festivals, and sporting events where a facility's overtaxed Wi-Fi simply won't do."
Picking on this is like saying that Elon Musk is an evil liar, because if he really cared about good of humanity and electric transport for the masses he surely wouldn't start with an superexpensive car for ultra rich, and then move to expensive car for moderatly-rich. Obviously, the whole argument about "Roadster bankrolling Model S bankrolling $35k Sedan" is just a bunch of lies trying to hide how evil he is.
That's basically what I'm reading from your argument.
You know, altruism involves money, and quite often the best way to do something good is to make it profitable.
> Look the bottom line here is these guys betrayed us. They are traitors, and we need to cut them out of our future.
If so, then long, long before Google you need to get rid of GoDaddy, Amazon, Facebook, Microsoft, Apple, BMW, General Motors, General Electric, Coca Cola, Nestle, Walmart, every other mom and pop store and pretty much 90% of other companies who betrayed us in many more ways, heavily documented and not alleged. Seriously, saying that Google Is Bad is nothing but a signalling game around here.
"Don't be evil... to our shareholders."
> It's all about data collection to spew more adverts at people.
The way they do this is the single most ethical way of doing advertisements. Non-intrusive and trying to predict what you actually need. They're pursuing the ultimate goal of good advertising, i.e. connecting your needs to the best way to satisfy them, but hell, they're evil.
We can discuss side effects and externalities of their data collection, but that's a completely different thing than assuming malice.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/prism-...
http://gizmodo.com/confirmed-nsa-paid-google-microsoft-other...
They are lying through their teeth. As you should know skj, being a google employee.
There's been a bit of a wandering definition for PRISM, from "they have NSA software with root access to all machines!" to "they receive LEO requests for information, which they review, and sometimes fulfill." The former is untrue, and the latter is true.
Though, as Google and Yahoo later found out, the NSA was directly tapping cables between their data centers [1].
[1] http://www.wired.com/2013/10/nsa-hacked-yahoo-google-cables/
1) True.
2) Consistent with statements made by Google.
3) Quickly mitigated by Google when it began encrypting traffic between data centers.
What has happened here is google has got scared. Because without trusting users all their business models fall apart. So they are lying. Its that simple.
Which is why it could never happen without it being well known inside Google.