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... we reused existing iOS frameworks and libraries in our approach, avoiding the difficult and complex reimplementation effort of Wine.

Cool, but it's against Apple's EULA to run the iOS binaries on non-Apple hardware, so unfortunately this project suffers from the same problem as emulators that require you to acquire the original firmware somehow.

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> but it's against Apple's EULA

This is Hacker News, right?

I always read it as "Hacker" in the traditional sense of the term, not the alarmist media "OMG!!H4qq0r" sense of the word. Hacking used to simply mean programming.

"Hacking used to simply mean programming"

Did it though? I thought it referred to finding creative solutions to problems that often incorporated programming. Was anyone really considered to be hacking if they were writing tic tac toe in Basic?

Of course. If you were the first to write tic tac toe in basic on the VIC-20, in the early 80's (or on something else in the 50's,etc)

Hacking used to mean anyone using a keyboard.

The term "hacker" implies rule-bending to solve real problems in a productive way, whether you're bending the rules of a programming environment or a legal construct like an EULA. Adherence to contracts is not mandatory for something to qualify as a traditional hack.

Perhaps it's actually "Hacker" News.

Hacker != Cracker

Sometimes Hacker == Cracker, if the crack is particularly clever.

Sometimes boolean , if the crack is particularly clever.

Let it go man, the days of hacker meaning anything other than "dude that uses a computer" are dead. I know what you mean, I remember the "hacker" ethos that was willing to throw middle fingers in the air EULA, but this crowd doesn't even seem aware of the difference between that crowd as "hackers" and people popping boxes as "hackers." Or the handful of other types of people covered by the always-vague "hacker". The internet community you're looking for is no longer a sizable portion of the people into tech, personalities expanded as as the field grew. And you're sure not going to find what you're talking about in a corner where the people here primarily for money congregate.

To summarize, the internet pissing match between if it meant "cracker" or something more akin to "respected technologist" was won by a late entrant: "using the cachet a label the former two groups built to sell a job to someone that is neither."

Or, to summarize the summary: The moment Paul Graham's writing told me I was a hacker, I knew I irrevocably wasn't.

Let's just return to the old terminology. Hax0r news.

;)

The EULA isn't all that important actually. It's the copyright. It's illegal to distribute copyrighted software without permission.

As long as they don't distribute that copyrighted code or derivations of that code then they should be okay. The end user then has to find a legal way to get a copy of that code.

If you download the XCode developer tools, you can extract the libaries from the .dmg using 7zip on windows

UNtil you build things like this there is no incentive to change the EULA, with something liberating like this it can force political change. Make it open source and it cannot die.

I thought the EULA doesn't count for much, especially in Europe?

You'd still have to get the binaries yourself from a device as Apple still own the copyright.

It doesn't not anywhere. You bough the device, do as you please.

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