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Awesome! Thanks. I don't know much about the path from idea to standardized feature with the JVM. Is there hope for it in Java 9 or is this much farther out in the future? Probably first and more importantly, what is the chance for this even ever happening?

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Likely delivery timeframe for value types in Java 10. Definitely not Java 9. Source - many conversations with Brian Goetz et al.

"the path from idea to standardized feature" Guy Steele was asking for value types in 1998 (http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~evans/cs655/readings/steele.pdf)

Yeah, but he was also asking for operator overloading.

Well, I don't have a problem with that, but it's not really relevant. The community liked one proposal and disliked the other, but it still took almost two decades to handle the one it liked.

My point was that him simply liking/proposing it doesn't mean much.

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