And only scammers say that pre-mined != scam. Else explain why you tried so hard to remove all the Ripple references from Stellar's code, and market it as a completely new system (after selling all your ripples of course and crashing its price).
They are also focusing heavily on getting non technical users. (As evidenced by using facebook as a free funds distribution method.)
And of course those founders are always here on HN ready to downvote any criticism.