‘White Label’ Money Laundering Services
krebsonsecurity.com
krebsonsecurity.com
The gist: the site lets you buy BTC with credit cards, at a substantial markup to the market price for Bitcoin (10 to 20%). The actual mechanism is by buying wish listed items on Amazon picked by the BTC "sellers." This lets the sellers use BTC on Amazon and also get a discount. The site keeps a spread.
Why is this a carder paradise? Because the only reason to ship a random address a $300 camera for $240 of consideration is the $300 you paid is not your $300. When the chargeback/fraud investigation comes in, the carder doesn't have the stolen goods and has no IRL nexus to the crime. They just have their illicit profits laundered to BTC.
To me that sounds like a) holding your hands over your eyes to ignore the fraud and b) like a disaster waiting to happen for anyone that uses the site regularly and ends up with a few fraudulent purchases sent to them.
Imagine regularly having goods shipped to your house from stolen/fraudulent credit cards. I see someone having the police show up at their door due to this site by the end of the year.
>They can prove they're not the buyer, because the buyer has a completely different name.
It doesn't matter the fraudulently purchased goods were shipped to your house. You are in possession of them and you're the person most likely to have committed the credit card fraud. Either way you are out the property even if you don't get investigated for credit card fraud.
Do it a few times though and it will be difficult to explain away.
You'd have to come up with evidence to prove it wasn't you that ordered it and good luck with that.
What happens if you linked the website on Facebook and people were like "Oh crap this is cheap" and go buy buy buy. The whole 'if its to good to be true it is' isn't going to stand up in court. The prosecution will have to prove that you knew the good where fraudulently purchased. Who know some people may use this as a legit alternative to Amazon, thinking all the items are legit (which they may well be).
Then they'd likely end up with a bunch of carded stuff too.
As I said before best case situation you have to return everything you were sent and you lose your bitcoins in the process. Worse case you get an overzealous prosecutor that goes after you and tries to make the case that the number of carded things showing up at your address and claimed by you proves you were the one doing the carding. Would they win? Who knows but it'd certainly cost you more than you'd ever save to win yourself and you'd still lose the products in the short term.
Oh, you mean because there is no evidence pointing to the physical location or identity of the carded.
But I am wondering, where are all these forums that Krebs is signed up for and reading? Also, is he fluent in Russian? I know revealing the URL's might tempt would-be cyberthieves, but personally I have my own curiosity that I would like to satisfy by reading them. I suspect there is a lot to be learned just by reading those forums (which I assume are member-only and require some kind of vetting process, anyway).
His translations have been spot on (even capturing nuance of language online), ie: http://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/07/mail-from-the-velvet-cybe...
He very often also links to those sites that he investigates.
Truly an example of exceptional journalism.
iPhones and iPads are indeed much more expensive in (for example) Brazil than in the U.S.:
http://brazilsense.com/index.php?title=Items_more_expensive_...
because the government of Brazil imposes a 50-100% luxury tax.
So I think there is validity in the article's claim that this difference amplifies the thieves' profits. However, this claim is always getting exaggerated in news reports; it's as if every stolen item gets shipped overseas because there's much more money to be made.
A variation I heard purports to explain what happens to all those stolen bicycles: the crooks ship containers full of stolen bicycles overseas where they can be sold for triple the price. If it were so much profit to be made, a legitimate business could simply buy the merchandise and export to these countries legally.
Also, in some cases, it would be very difficult to exploit the price difference whether the goods were exported legally or illegally. For example, in Singapore cars are massively more expensive than in the U.S. The government auctions off the right to put cars on the road each year. If thieves managed to get cars into Singapore, they'd still have to somehow get past a strict registration system.
Except, as you mention, a legitimate business needs to pay the import taxes, which are the reason the price difference exists in the first place. Carders simply ship these items without properly declaring them.
*Without taxes, but as a tourist you can claim those back. Even taking into account taxes of both it's still a lot cheaper in the US.
And includes a two-year warranty package that is not included in the US price.
Is it possible to fraud the fraudster here? You sign up for the work at home job, get a bunch of high end electronics sent to you, and then just keep it (or resell it locally).
Even in those case where people were innocent(did not keep the merchandise), they still had to go to court.
The other scenario (being hurt by the scammer) is less likely but equally unappealing.