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Comment by samirmenon | Hacker News Reader

It says my Facebook account is "too new" to get Stellars.... I've had it for over 3 months. What's the reasoning?

Same message and my account is two and a half years old. I have no friends on the account, so maybe "too new" really means "not enough friends".

Edit: Because this is generating some discussion, I'll clarify that it is not actually my main account which is why I have no friends or photos, but I don't like giving third parties access to my private main account information. The spam detection seems to have worked well on me, I was just pointing out that account age is not the only filter.

Your network isn't valuable enough to datamine, so you get no funny money. That's the message I'm taking away....

Ya, that could be it.

Yeah, see, I would probably find that incredibly suspicious as well. Though, most spam accounts try to get around this by sending out hundreds of friend requests to random people.

Hello, we check various properties of your Facebook account to determine that this was not a spam account created simply to exploit the giveaway. This is our first day out, and we apologize that legitimate users like yourself aren't able to receive the giveaway. Please check back in the coming days as we continue to improve our spam detection algorithms.

And what is with people, that don't have a Facebook account (yet)?

I guess, anybody that creates a new Facebook account now, because he wants to also get the Stellars will fall into the spam category.

tl;dr: Isn't it a legitimate interest, to get something that others get? Or is it just a giveaway for Facebook users? When so, would you please say so in the first place (, that your system is only for them). It does not foster my trust in this new system, when I am locked out, just because I am not inside some "special club" (I don't remember, that Facebook membership is now essential to interact in the internet -- .... I am at the verge to feel discriminated.).

I find it good, to have an alternate payment method to get out of the trap of traditional payment systems, that are dominated by a few big corporations .... and then, what happens, I have to bow to one even bigger monopolist. --> Does not foster my trust into a system that claims to be free and open.

Hello, Andrew from Stellar here. We're using Facebook as our identity verification mechanism for our giveaway, and we've added additional spam prevention checks to ensure lots of Facebook accounts aren't created just to claim the giveaway reward. We will be tweaking these checks in the coming days to ensure legitimate users like yourself will be let in. Please check back soon!

Hi, I'm excited about Stellar, but disappointed in the initial offering scheme. People with lots of real-looking Facebook accounts can grab some extra funny money and the rest of us get shafted. I'll check back later!

Hi, Andrew, please realize you are depending on the desire of people on HN not to be assholes to acquire imaginary currency.

A part of me was sorely tempted, out of annoyance, to simply acquire enough facebook accounts that would bypass your check just to point out how little value it has. I've long since quashed the urge but not everyone will.

Welp, I guess I won't be using Stellar

I reactivated mine to attempt to get access to the Stellars as well. Its also "too new". Ah well. Still a neat idea, I'll just have no use for it until it matures since I can't use it.

So people can't create bots to farm Stellar money. You get free Stellar when signing up.

You can farm Facebook accounts to farm Stellar $$ if you wanted is the flaw in that logic. People already farm Facebook accounts :/

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