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Religious flamewars of any kind are off topic here.

Firstly, Jesus more likely had dark skin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depiction_of_Jesus#Range_of_dep...

and secondly, to be honest, I can't wait to watch this.

Dark has shades. He is referred to be a Galilean.

I wonder if the OP and change.org petition is viral marketing for the show? Calling for something to be banned is marketing gold.

It's not, it's from the hate-filled assholes of AFA: http://www.afa.net/Detail.aspx?id=2147547885

Reminder:

> AFA has been listed as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) as of November 2010 for the "propagation of known falsehoods" and the use of "demonizing propaganda" against LGBT people.

Blasphemy's a funny thing, it's assumed to be objectively definable because it presupposes the offense of a deity whose nature and will can be comprehended, yet it depends entirely on the culture and politics of the time. At one time, merely owning a Bible printed in the King's English was the vilest of offenses. Yet I doubt one could find many modern Christians who would condemn their ability to read their own Bibles as a clear heresy, and submit themselves to the stake forthwith for a proper burning.

I would even go so far as to submit that blasphemy is a part of the natural evolutionary process of any religion, as each generation comes to terms with the outdated assumptions and propaganda of the prior order. What did Jesus mean when he (supposedly) said the Sabbath was meant to serve man, instead of man to serve the Sabbath? I suspect that some people take religion way too seriously and need to lighten up.

It was meant for hypocrites like Pharisees of the day. And to make His point He also said, who if their donkey or oxen has fallen in pits will not pick them up immediately on Sabbath day. It was meant for the people who were using religion as cover for their own agenda and these are the same people who crucified Jesus. Jesus said this not for evolution, it was meant to show the truth.

I doubt anyone following Jesus wants to see him as profane, pot-smoking, alcohol-drinking character. That is how this series portrays him. This does not look evolutionary by any means, it is blasphemy.

There are, of course, Christians who would be perfectly happy with the idea of Jesus being a pot-smoker and drinker. And let's ignore the fact that the original Christians would probably have been aghast at the thought of Gentiles daring to consider themselves as having a relationship with their God.

According to the stories, he turned water into wine. He did work on the Sabbath. He showed clear disrespect to his religious elders and his parents, vandalized temple property, and was a suspected (legally, convicted) blasphemer and domestic terrorist. Depending on what apocrypha you believe, he possibly did much worse as a child, to the point that he had to raise a kid from the dead to vouch for the assumption that he'd killed said kid. Jesus was, even by the most generous of accounts, kind of a punk.

>There are, of course, Christians who would be perfectly happy with the idea of Jesus being a pot-smoker and drinker

I have yet to know such a Christian.

>And let's ignore the fact that the original Christians would probably have been aghast at the thought of Gentiles daring to consider themselves as having a relationship with their God.

Gentiles were not allowed to have relationship with Jesus and God for 10 years after Jesus ascended. But God told Peter that Gentiles were allowed to have relationship with Him and Jesus. It was word of God, again not evolution by any means.

>According to the stories, he turned water into wine. He did work on the Sabbath.

I answered this in other comment above.

>to the point that he had to raise a kid from the dead to vouch for the assumption that he'd killed said kid

Are you kidding me? Not sure which Bible you read. But He made little girl alive again who was sick and her soul had left the body.

>Jesus was, even by the most generous of accounts, kind of a punk.

Really dude?

> I have yet to know such a Christian.

I'm sorry for you?

> Gentiles were not allowed to have relationship with Jesus and God for 10 years after Jesus ascended. But God told Peter that Gentiles were allowed to have relationship with Him and Jesus. It was word of God, again not evolution by any means.

Gentiles were initially not allowed to have relationships with jesus, then tack changed and they were allowed. How is that not doctrine evolving?

> Are you kidding me? Not sure which Bible you read.

Er…

> Depending on what apocrypha you believe

the event in question is part of the Infancy Gospel of Thomas

>I have yet to know such a Christian.

Who are you? You're one person. There have been billions of Christians from various countries over thousands of years. What you personally know or don't know doesn't really mean much.

But since you've decided to argue your personal interpretation of the Bible as an absolute, I will choose to end my role in this conversation.

Must watch this show.

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