Drone operator explains how he found missing man
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Are you sure the 'drone' in the BBC article pilotless?
> Should we stop calling "ship" to the Navy boats, since it's also used for cruises?
Probably not, but there's a big ethical debate about drones at the moment and pro media pieces showing "drones are good!" is only going to confuse the debate.
By pilotless, I mean without a person inside it. If being remotely controlled disqualifies it as a drone, then neither is Predator a drone. That wouldn't make much sense, would it?
Probably not, but there's a big ethical debate about drones at the moment and pro media pieces showing "drones are good!" is only going to confuse the debate.
On the other hand, if the media doesn't show that "drones" include private "toys" as well, the backlash may affect them unjustly.
Any unjustified backlash restricting people's use of toys is pretty low on my list of things to be concerned about when the bigger issue is mass killing.
He'd likely be dead if he'd gone missing in Australia.
I'm thinking that the drone pilot just got lucky. Or he saw the man previously and then found out he was missing, then knew almost exactly where to look (complete speculation but more reasonable than the needle in a haystack scenario)
What is the max range on a reasonably priced drone these days (transmitter range or battery range)?
(flir one : http://www.flir.com/flirone/ )
That's a really nice price on the one you linked to
http://therm-app.com/ (an android verison, too expensive, didn't search for any alternatives)
Not unless that person shot at or killed another officer.
The low cost of drones is going to make good things like this happen.
But it is also going to allow the law enforcement to track every person at a protest, figure out who they are and put them on a no-fly list or some other watch list. I am completely convinced drones will be used at the next DNC and RNC conventions for 2016.
Aren't "search teams" usually police? And other than police who else would have dogs trained to track people?
"But it is also going to allow the law enforcement to track every person at a protest, figure out who they are and put them on a no-fly list or some other watch list. I am completely convinced drones will be used at the next DNC and RNC conventions for 2016."
The world is constantly changing. Laws will need to be put in place to limit this. More open government and more participation by people interesting in privacy rights in government would help dramatically.
Different country and circumstances but just out of curiosity, in London the police helicopter searches for missing people quite often https://twitter.com/MPSinthesky
If it was a young child and someone directly witnessed some kind of "abduction" they would respond with an "Amber Alert" to make everyone else look for them.
image processing becomes the next obstacle after range. It is still very possible to overlook your target when the drone is moving quickly through an area, but it could be made easier with image recognition software.
The one in question more than likely used a normal visual spectrum camera. Cheap, repurposed security board cameras or GoPros are the norm.
FLIR cameras are available[1], but they're very expensive, so, yes, it's very unlikely this guy was using thermal imaging.
>What is the max range on a reasonably priced drone these days (transmitter range or battery range)?
The answer is a solid "it depends." For a multirotor, your biggest limitation is battery capacity. 10-15 minutes of flight time would be above average.
As far as radio systems go, again, it depends on the frequencies and antennas being used. The most common systems use 2.4GHz for control and 5.8GHz for the video downlink. 1-2KM is pretty typical. A fixed wing with a 433MHz/1.3GHz system and directional antennas can potentially make 20-30KM flights. This is all with readily available equipment at fairly low cost.
[1] - http://www.atlantahobby.com/Store/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCa...
However, if you want reasons:
1) Hazard to the uninvolved
A car is confined roughly to roads. A car failing on a road is unlikely to deviate much from the road (likely to encounter telephone poles, trees, curbs, guardrails, etc.) and is unlikely to kill unrelated people even it it hurts another motorist.
A drone falling from the sky is a hazard to non-drone people--when it fails it IS coming out of the sky.
Sure, you could confine the drones to over roads, but the disruptive effects, as you point out, are mostly about NOT being confined to a road.
2) Liability
How do you trace that failed drone back to the person controlling it? It's wireless. Now all drones need to be registered.
3) Autonomy
Do you want a drone to have some autonomy? Before you say no, I would personally rather have a functioning drone fly home safely if it loses radio link rather than drop out of the sky. Who's responsible for that autonomy?
4) Collisions
Drones would be a huge hazard near where planes are flying. Sure, banning drones near airports can be done. However, commercial airplanes have fairly heavily traffic corridors by virtue of the ATC system, and some of the corridors go over land in the middle of nowhere where drones would like to be operating.
5) Law enforcement/military
Drones render terrain control suspect. This has NOT sunk in to most law enforcement (and probably not much military, either, since the US hasn't yet fought an enemy armed with drones of its own.). Using a drone to put even something as simple as a flashbang behind a police line would cause total chaos. Police are used to winning by surrounding--smaller overall force, but only deployed as a greater number against a smaller number in terrain control. Drones can come from any direction, can be totally automated, and are extremely hard to target (we use shotguns for bird hunting instead of rifles for a reason). I would be stunned if some of the drug gangs aren't already deploying drones--we're talking about people who deploy submarines for crying out loud.
There are good reasons for the FAA to knee-jerk to "NO! STOP!"
Just check out all these downed drones, many of which crashed due to mechanical issues - http://makezine.com/magazine/drowned-drones-when-a-multicopt...
Edit: add operator in brackets.
The 'drone' is not the news here, he could have been flying around in a helicopter, if he looked in the same place he would have found him.
But I'm not sure if the drone is not the news here. I think a drone can be a cheap way to search from above. Instead of using a helicopter multiple drones could be used saving costs and covering a larger area.
[1] Read 'Avoid News'.
A 'drone' is a cheap and effective way to have a camera with a huge field of view operating in areas that humans and helicopters cannot, or just doing things that it would be prohibitively expensive to do otherwise.
You can fly a 'drone' over a river, where a human would be hard pressed to follow, and you can fly a drone amongst trees where helicopters could not fly. You can do both of these things cheaply, and in a far more scalable fashion. 'Drones' don't need roads or other such infrastructure, and can carry decent sized payloads practically anywhere.
The application of 'drones' has huge impact on a large number of areas of applications, and it would be silly not to recognise that.
Somewhat sensationalist it may be, but in my opinion the advent of these things is worth it.
But the 'drone' in this case did not do anything. It is a remote controlled vehicle, and it did not do any thinking, the operator did.
The title implies the drone was the key element in finding him, and not the person controlling the drone. I agree that drones will make surveillance easier, but until they fly autonomously without human control then it is a much smaller problem.
Using drones to find missing people is a good usage case though, and I like that.
In a sense, that is accurate. The person alone would likely have taken far longer to find the person, so the drone was a key (if not the key) element in finding the missing person so fast.
Flying a drone is much easier and cheaper than flying a helicopter.
Sure, you can go ride a chopper to look for the person, it's about $500 an hour
Not to mention risk and hard to reach places.
It's not "hop in and fly" usually
>"Had we had not seen him then, the drone would have seen him a few minutes later since he was in the search area we were given to look at. If nothing else, the drone helped us cover a huge area in a short amount of time that would have taken many volunteers hours to search."
I think that the cheap and quick aspects of drones are really important here.
Even a small piston powered Robin helo is around $500 to operate per hour[1], and the smallest turbine powered ones are going to be around that figure just for the fuel: ~500 lb/h fuel consumption [2][3], JetA at > $6 / gallon [4].
So for one hour helo ops, you can purchase 2-3 parrot drones [5].
[1] http://www.aneclecticmind.com/2013/09/12/why-i-charge-545hou...
[2] http://www.turbokart.com/about_arrius.htm
[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurocopter_Colibri
[4] http://www2.jetaviation.com/index.php/jet/bedford/fuel
[5] http://www.amazon.com/Parrot-AR-Drone-Quadricopter-Controlle...
From the article: We were asked to search a large area of farmland with the drone. I covered three-quarters of it using three batteries, and the last quarter was a little too far for me to get good first-person view reception
Landing to change batteries every couple of minutes, is a serious blow to efficiency.