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>Take everything with a grain of salt!

That's rich coming from the guy linking to Russian state controlled media.

Indeed I realize that this is Russia Media. I've been monitoring information as it goes by on twitter trying to make the best sense I can of the situation. This report is dated June 29 which is interesting.

Not so much "rich" as "completely reasonable and expected". Isn't linking to a biased source exactly when you should be saying that?

Indeed. I was downvoted for bringing this source to the conversation. I don't see how it's not highly relevant to the conversation. I urge everyone to read all reports though with a grain of salt and read reports from all sides.

Both links imply that Donetsk militia could be involved in downing of Malaysian airplane.

What media isn't state controlled, whether overtly or covertly?

When was the last time you read anything positive about Russia in the Western press?

Maybe since the day you were born you've been conditioned to have a Pavlovian reaction to Russia?

Dude. Russia is annexing by duplicitous force parts of a neighboring country. Full stop. There is no way to spin that as OK.

1. The legitimate government of Ukraine was overthrown in a violent coup. It was not legal. http://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/2849/was-the-cha...

2. Subsequently, people in the already autonomous region of Crimea, ethnically/culturally/historically Russian, had a referendum to break-away from Ukraine and then join Russia - especially after the new coup leaders decided to ban use of the Russian language.

Check your facts, dude.

You forgot illegal use of the Russian armed forces in Crimea denied at the time but admitted later. Oh, and banning the use of the Russian language was completely invented by Russian TV.

Fact-checking is good, yes. Start with http://www.examiner.com/list/russia-s-top-20-lies-about-ukra... and http://www.examiner.com/list/russia-s-top-40-lies-about-ukra...

I've been following the Russian news somewhat and my parents have been talking to friends/relatives in both Ukraine an Russia, and the amount of outright invention in the official Russian media has been quite impressive.

Crimea annexation was an act of self defense. The US wanted to rent the Ukrainian naval base in Crimea next to the Russian one.

I recall some treaties in the early 90s guaranteeing Ukraine’s territorial integrity in return for it returning Soviet nuclear weapons to Russia.

Maybe the French still want to share theirs with us, now that these treaties are obviously no longer relevant :)

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