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Edward Snowden will speak at HOPE X on Saturday

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Anyone know if there will be a live stream of the talk?

http://radio.hope.net/

i certainly hope so.

looking forward

Ugh. The venue is going to packed, we really don't need anyone else advertising this :\

...You really do, more people will find out about Hope, more people will thus want to come to HOPE. Thus growing the community. Most people don't know what HOPE is, even people in the hacker community.

A lot of people know what HOPE Is. The problem is HOPE only happens every two years. Everyone knows what Defcon & Blackhat are & go to those conferences instead. There are large differences between the style, methods & ideals of the conferences, as well. The problem is, the venue is already very packed as is, they sent out an e-mail saying they had to close down their pre-registration because of the interest in the conference.

That sounds like a good problem to have. Perhaps that will lead to the event being held at a larger venue allowing even more attendees.

I bought tickets myself two weeks ago before the Snowden announcement, but there is no way I would actually stay in the Hotel Pennsylvania. If HOPE cares so much about attracting more people, they're going to need to lean on the owners to invest more in that shithole if they want to stay there.

I've never really understood that. Do they love this venue because it's so central to NYC or what? They've been there for years (out of the many HOPE conferences, this one will be only my second) and there was a time where they feared the hotel would be shut down or sold or something. What gives? :\

It's been where it's been for a while, so there's some sentimentality.

Hotel Pennsylvania is also incredibly cheap. It's also very crappy -- you don't even get what you pay for.

(I'm speaking at 11p Friday if anyone is interested, and will be in town Thursday to Wednesday. But not staying at the Hotel Pennsylvania.)

The Penn5000 rooms aren't that bad, and if you timed it right, very cheap by NY standards.

I did W on Lex for $185/night and got a "fantastic suite" (45-50 square meters) as a spg plat upgrade. That, for NYC, is pretty good IMO.

that, for NYC is excellent.

Marriott for me and the family (who are also attending).

I'm not staying at the Pennsylvania, either.

There's also the extra nostalgia from the fact that the hotel has the oldest phone number in New York City.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotel_Pennsylvania#Pennsylvani...

The hotel doesn't look like a shithole. What are you referring to?

The hotel itself looks okay. The rooms and bathrooms look like shitholes. (i've stayed there five different times...)

Correct, I meant the rooms.

(Oh hai, you're here too!)

Yes, but they won't go to a larger venue. They've had a solid relationship with Hotel Pennsylvania for a long time. Who knows. You'd think with two years between conferences, things would be run better too. There isn't really much to do there, it's kind of left to the attendees. In addition, the fact they only have one main freight elevator to go up & down to the floor with the talks is ridiculous. They would be much better served somewhere like the Jacob Javits center.

The best conferences, IMO, are every 4 years -- HIP/HAL/etc. (Dutch, 2017), and CCC Camp (German, 2015).

You misread that email. I'll quote it here:

HOPE X preregistration closing tonight!

As we are now less than one week away from the biggest HOPE conference ever, the time has come to close down our discounted preregistration service. This is necessary in order to ensure that everyone gets their tickets emailed to them in plenty of time. Due to the nature of this year's program and the increased interest level overall, we can't guarantee that we won't reach capacity at the hotel. Those of you who have preregistered are guaranteed entry to the conference. If you have not already done so, we advise visiting http://store.2600.com/hopextickets.html before the day is over.

And then there are the 99.99% of us who aren't actually going to the conference, who would like to listen to the live stream.

With all due respect, that's a hipster-like perspective. Those of us who are attending Hope shouldn't see ourselves as part of an in-crowd and shut others out. People in the security / tech communities are spreading word of this talk because it's important and relevant to them. As the other commenter pointed out, it's great for Hope to sell more tickets and receive broader support.

There are a limited number of tickets, and then the event's full. 2600 would understandably like to sell all of the tickets to avoid some extreme financial difficulty they're in. You'd like them to avoid that?

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