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I'm not sure most MPs give a shit about this. From experience, having written to a few over similar issues going back to the original RIPA, a blanket "there there terrorism bad m'kay" reply is about all you'll get back.

The only chance for a resolution is to vote a minority party in with a decent privacy manifesto and hope the hell they stick to it.

Unfortunately any chance of a change to our ward based voting scam is at the mercy of the majority populous of moronic slop thoroughly invested in "anyone different is bad" and "support our boys in their imperialist rampage" driven by the community hate machines of the Sun and the Daily Mail[1], so we're fucked.

[1] I've tamed this down from some of the horrific things I've seen posted on Facebook which make me very embarrassed to be associated to this nation. The same people moaning about extremism, then within 2 minutes calling for the heads of everyone to be removed. Actually perhaps this is why we need surveillance. Should I support the bill because everyone has gone batshit? It's utterly sickening.

> The only chance for a resolution is to vote a minority party in with a decent privacy manifesto and hope the hell they stick to it.

I think we're beyond that. The whole system is broken i.e. government, parliament, "democracy", elections, parties etc.

Really, parties, elections, government and such are just a distraction from the fact that corporations control the world.

I agree entirely.

I'd be a noisy activist but I'd rather subvert the system silently and educate my children to be ethical, upstanding and to quietly have zero respect for implied authority. Better a grey man[1] than a dead man walking.

[1] from the survivalist wingnuts, but a valid philosophy: "Grey man - an individual who possesses the skills, ability and intent to blend into any situation or surrounding without standing out, concealing his or her true skills, ability, and intent from others."

Put down the "corporations" outrage and realise that this is a case in which the "corporations" are on the losing side: ISPs obliged to retain data at their own expense in order to satisfy law enforcement.

Elections still work provided that you can get people to agree with you. It's an uphill struggle on complex issues but it's far better than a violent alternative.

No, I shall not put it down, but I'm well aware corporations are negatively affected by this. My comment had nothing to do with this new act.

You're looking at the wrong corporations. ISPs are fairly small game in the corporate hierarchy. They've become low ranking gatekeepers unexpectedly which is why they're targeted.

What you need to look at is high finance, defence and global infrastructure corporations.

No, you shouldn't support the bill - batshit insane people are the last people we want to have access to stuff like this!

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