Segway Inventor Dean Kamen Thinks New Stirling Engine Will Get You Off the Grid
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An engine that could run off a wood-burning fire and was built to last a couple decades would strike me as really neat - this not so much. I suppose other places have more issues with the power grid reliability, but it's presumably more efficient to maintain the current infrastructure than to get one of these into every house.
Natural gas is also going to get much more expensive if they ever push fracking regulations through - the current pollution from gas leaks is actually worse than burning an equivalent amount of petroleum.
> Natural gas is also going to get much more expensive if they ever push fracking regulations through - the current pollution from gas leaks is actually worse than burning an equivalent amount of petroleum.
Interesting. Do you have links to further reading?
> shale gas wells were six times more likely to leak, compared with conventional wells.
There is also the pie in the sky reason that it is low-infrastructure.
Something you can stick in a cabin to power odd appliances or a computer and not have to worry about carrying fuel in (not very practical I admit).
Simple thermoelectric generators are tricky because you have to maintain the temperature difference - generally only good for brief use or with a battery.
> Interesting. Do you have links to further reading?
To be honest, it's information I got second hand from some climate researchers I used to work with. I wasn't planning to weigh in with google results, but this blog does a very impressive job of documenting the back and forth with links to papers - http://www.carbonbrief.org/blog/2013/08/shale-gas-more-or-le...
However in quite a few places the practicality of prepaid metal gas cylinders beats installing electric utility lines & meters, ensuring efficient transformers, preventing pilfering/meter tampering, etc.
These aren't really new. Eg here is an article looking at an existing commercial gas powered Stirling micro CHP that's quiet and designed for your house: http://www.f09.fh-koeln.de/imperia/md/content/personen/somme... - there's also a comparison to an ICE based equivalent and it has much better electricity generation efficiency.
The total efficiency is going to depend a lot on where you use it. The heating output is locked to the electrical output so you're always going to generate the 5 kW of heat per each kW of electricity, so you have to stop the plant when your hot water tank and house is heated up - or start throwing away all the heat and just run it as a low efficiency genset.
The large pool case sounds like a fit, but from another perspective it's just greenwashing the huge energy sink of the pool. The laundries & restaurants case sounds better here. Or regular houses in climates where a lot of heating is needed most of the year.
Mind: gas delivery networks likely would crumble (hopefully not literally) under the increased demand.
Depending on system costs, this could be viable as a back-up power generation option (blackouts, etc.), where electrical service might fail but the gas supply would still work.
Capturing and making use of waste heat could indeed be useful. I see the possibility of full grid independence as very slim, and not particularly compelling (with distributed small, renewable, and intermittent generation, the grid is a useful way to move surpluses and deficits around). Though being somewhat immune to major grid disruptions is a possibility.
I'd also keep an eye on natural gas trends. Supplies aren't endless, though the US EIA's estimates suggest a reference resource case of increasing extraction through 2040 at least, the less optimistic low resource case suggesting a peak by 2030. With fracked oil extraction very likely to peak before 2020, a transfer of fuel and energy uses onto natural gas will change market dynamics considerably. I've got my doubts as to how long gas will remain cheap. And suspect that its increased use in transport (EIA sees a large role in trucking) other uses may be limited.
A nice thing with cogeneration is that it works best when photovoltaic panels work the least. My case isn't typical, I live on a boat in Europe. She has panels which could push 5-6kWh/day on average in summer (they don't because our batteries are full long before that), but only 1kWh/day in december. We need 2-3kWh/day to be comfortable. So, we need more than what PV panels provides exactly when we also need to heat the boat, so a cost-effective CHP solution would be great.
Also, I'd like this to run on wood pellets, or diesel fuel: replacing the electrical grid with the natural gaz one is a bad idea, especielly considering that the expected yield of non-conventional extraction methods is continuously and rapidly adjusted down.
This is what we as engineers should be doing.
Stirling Engine combined heat and power appliance the size of a dishwasher. About 10,000 Euros for 1KW of electricity output. I don't think it made it in the marketplace.
http://gigaom.com/2013/11/18/apple-solar-farm-fuel-cell-farm...
In terms of volume, 1 ft^3 is about 1025 btu, a therm is 10,000 btu, so you're looking at 97.5, let's call it 100 ft^3 of natural gas consumption per day.
As for running a Stirling engine on solar energy, or another heat source, yes, you could do that. Again, you need 33 kW of input power, which means a 33m^3 collecter surface -- that's 5.8m on a side, or 19 feet.
Because the Stirling's hot end is a point, you'd need tracking systems or a working fluid to deliver heat to it from your mirrors.
Incidentally, you can answer a lot of these questions using GNU units, written by Adrian Mariano. The great thing about it is conversion between different units and relationships, e.g., energy per hour per unit area. I find it invaluable in looking at energy, renewable, and related issues.
The waste heat will be roughly 50% of the energy involved. The difference between the generators won't be that big. So each unit of fuel provides more energy to the end user (which is what I am calling efficiency, the energy utilized for something vs the energy consumed making it available).
A small local generator will certainly be behind what a big commercial generator will do, but if the waste heat is also being harnessed ("Combined Heat and Power," or CHP), combined efficiencies of 60%-80% are possible. Commercial electrical generation is typically around 40% efficient, so CHP really can offer very big benefits.
Of course, there's nothing fundamentally efficient about a single family living in a huge mansion with a 10KW energy demand and a big heated swimming pool.
I would have guessed these things would be most attractive to hotels, universities, airports, truck stops, apartments and condos, and other institutional-scale places that have a significant round-the-clock demand for electricity and hot water.
I wonder what it says about the device and the market that they're planning to sell to well-heeled homeowners first.
I think the key is in where he says a unit with a fifth the output wouldn't be a fifth the cost. If he can use the luxury end of the market to drive the manufacturing costs down, I'm sure general retail won't be far behind.
Well this seems out of touch with reality. This is how I read it: "Why maintain 1 power plant when you can instead ship and maintain 100000 instead?"
A Stirling engine in particular needs an explicit heat sink to cool some parts of the mechanism; shuttling a working fluid (and its heat) back and forth between a hot end and a cold end is how it works. In this case, the cold end is the swimming pool.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_law_of_thermodynamics
A sterling engine isn't the only type of generation that works for co-gen. Most of these micro generation proposals involve some form of waste heat recovery in the form of warm water.
Not necessarily. Some areas have central heating and can use both the electricity and the waste heat.
If the primary use for a potential customer is going to be heating water, essentially doing heat->generator->electricity->heat->water, how is this a good idea? Surely people who want to heat lots of water would do better if they cut out the middlemen and just did heat->water.
Of course electricity is more versatile than hot water, but if your primary focus is on heating lots of water and you are already committed to making heat yourself, it seems senseless to me to not just apply the heat directly to the water.
The efficiency of any heat engine depends on the gradient between the input and output temperature. So if you have a constant supply of cold water the Stirling engine can operate very efficiently, and the cold water becomes hot water which you can use for other things.
Of course, like I said, this is true of any heat engine. You can do the same thing by heating a boiler and using the steam to drive a turbine, which also generates waste heat for other things.
There's a good book about development and launch of the segway "CODE NAME GINGER: The Story Behind Ginger and Dean Kamen's Quest to Invent a New World"[1]. It's in paperback as "Reinventing the Wheel: A Story of Genius, Innovation, and Grand Ambition"[2]. It also has some interesting coverage of what happened inside the company during that time.
[1] http://www.stevekemper.net/disc.htm
[2] http://www.amazon.com/Reinventing-Wheel-Genius-Innovation-Am...
Seriously, why would anyone lease a home generator. Maybe I'm old school, but I can't see the benefits to the homeowner if you're undercutting your savings from installing one of these devices by paying "RENT" on the generator?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1315518/Segway-tycoo...
* Who: NRG, while not a utility, is an owner of utility-scale generation capacity. They wholesale electricity to utilities for distribution and resale. Their portfolio is largely fossil-fuel but increasingly renewables [1]. They see themselves in the "death spiral" some other generation suppliers do [3][4].
* What: Per [2], it's a combined natural-gas-in ( 50KW Th ) heat-out / grid-power-in / gas-to-electrical-power-out (Stirling engine, 10 KW max ) / grid-and-home-power-out (15KW max) / solar-power-in / battery-power-both-ways (15KW max) / inverter system, tech specs subject to change.
More per [2]:
"A single unit can integrate natural gas, solar panels,
wind turbines and batteries for storage," NRG says. "The
device is connected to the grid, which allows the two to
work seamlessly together. But if the grid's power goes
down, the engine's energy stays up. Any excess generated
energy can be sent back to the grid and may be credited
for your benefit."
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Aside from the 15 kW maximum electrical output, output
can be used for space heating (35 kW or 0.12 MMBTU) or
hot water (200 gallons per hour at 70° rise). Additional
uses include snow melt and spa and pool heating.
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The technical specifications are subject to change.
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When necessary, the unit seamlessly transitions to a
backup power system, to maintain continuous operations,
NRG says.
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The Beacon 10 unit's dimensions are 3 ft. 8 in. long by 2
ft. 6 in. wide by 4 ft.high, which NRG says is slightly
larger than a washing machine.
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The unit weighs 1,500 lbs.
* How it can be used: Disrupt the utility's business by selling or leasing equipment directly to end users, and by doing energy arbitrage with the utility.The whole business of solar integration and battery integration is optional, and smells of "greenwashing-by-association" to me: The cheapest install of this machine would not include a solar component nor battery, each of which might be very expensive in addition to this machine. Who could afford all that? Certainly not everyone.
* Where benefits accrue: See [5] for the long story, but it looks like NRG mainly. If you lease it from NRG, you may not get as much of the benefit of energy arbitrage.
* What I think of it: Regulators should insist on a "connection charge" for this and accept energy sold at wholesale prices, while selling to the user at retail prices. Disclosure: I own a solar system with net metering, but believe a "connection charge" is entirely reasonable /for those who have their own generation capability/ and thus use the grid for sale of distributed generation, but /not/ for those who don't.
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[1] http://www.nrg.com/renew/renewable-generation/
[2] http://www.energychoicematters.com/stories/20131022a.html
[3] http://www.utilitydive.com/news/facing-decline-nrg-energy-fo...
[4] www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/NRG-Energy-Deploying-Dean-Kamens-Solar-Smart-In-Home-Generator
[5] http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/11/who-wi...
I've seen German stirling engines that use a fresnel lens focusing sunlight to supply the heat - and the most expensive part is the sun-tracking software and equipment.
There are clean ways to get you off the grid. This is not one of them. At least not entirely.